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All-purpose, running Tim Tebow sucks/is a deity thread!

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by MisterCreosote, Dec 11, 2011.

  1. Bodie_Broadus

    Bodie_Broadus Active Member

    You wanna lay some coin on Tebow becoming one of the all-time greats?
     
  2. BrianGriffin

    BrianGriffin Active Member

    He will be the greatest QB ever to complete 48 percent of his passes? Or the best to be 30th out of 32 NFL quarterbacks in yards per pass attempt? Or the greatest at leading the league in percentage of possessions that end in 3-and-outs?

    I think these are all true of Tebow (can't verify the last one off hand, but I heard it).

    I keep coming back to Alex Smith and Trent Dilfer. You can win without a good QB as long as the QB manages the game and contributes to a harmonious locker room that pulls in the same, constructive, direction. I'll give Tebow credit for that.

    But that won't help him if he has to match the production of any top-tier QB (Rodgers, Brees, Brady and/or a healthy Manning) or probably second-tier QBs.

    Having said that, it's completely possible that he can win. But it won't be because of him.
     
  3. cjericho

    cjericho Well-Known Member

    Excellent job, sir. Was thinking it would be you or mystery meat that would help out.
     
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  4. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    Wow, the Duke of Dorchester!
     
  5. Small Town Guy

    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member

    The best description of Rob Ryan I've seen is from the Strib's Michael Rand: Rob Ryan couldn't decide whether to be The Dude or Walter for a Big Lebowski costume party, so he just combined the two.
     
  6. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    You are so committed to Tebow sucking forever. It's cute. You should also know that John Elway completed 47 percent of his passes as a rookie.

    Dilfer and Alex Smith, and all "game managers" really, share a common attribute: They don't have to win the game with a comeback at the end. Tebow is 5 for 5 this season in that category. He is doing something right.
     
  7. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Bingo. Teammates can spot a phony. I don't get any sense his teammates think he's a phony.

    And, he's the first one to give his teammates credit.
     
  8. BrianGriffin

    BrianGriffin Active Member

    Never said he would suck forever. I'm Tebow agnostic.

    But again, I don't get the adulation for what he's doing so far. I mean when the best thing you can say about a QB's performance for the first 58 minutes a game is he didn't turn it over, thus keeping his team within 10-0, hell that's managing a game. Nothing more.

    He's on a field-position-and-defense team and they win because they play GREAT defense and find a way to piece together a drive or two in what are generally underwhelming offensive performances. That's game management. So happens that the one decent drive they put together often comes at the very end. Hell, face it, against the Jets and the Bears, the offensive bar was set so low for so much of the game - we're talking epic inept - that any decent drive at the end was going to look positively heroic.

    It's wonderful that he's putting together drives at end of the games. Bravo. But for chrissake, the first 58 minutes count too. Thank God he has that defense bailing him out.
     
  9. Johnny Chase

    Johnny Chase Member

    http://deadspin.com/5867461/
     
  10. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Thank God indeed -- which Tebow does. :)
     
  11. BrianGriffin

    BrianGriffin Active Member

    You'll notice I also worked an "agnostic" into the post ... and a "chrissake."
     
  12. Stoney

    Stoney Well-Known Member

    Sorry, but the Tebow debates have grown stale for me ever since Stain flipped from the dark side. His special brand of smug know-it-all-it-ness (always sorta pictures Charles Winchester III talking football when I read his posts) getting disproven each week has been a highlight of my Mondays.

    Who's still in the anti-Tebow camp, anyways? Griffin? Sorry, just doesn't bring the same kind of panache to the role. Anchovy? Sorry, haven't been able to take his shit seriously ever since that "not honorable" absurdity. The anti-Tebows have lost their juice.
     
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