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All-purpose, running Tim Tebow sucks/is a deity thread!

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by MisterCreosote, Dec 11, 2011.

  1. Tarheel316

    Tarheel316 Well-Known Member

    Don't worry Stoney. They'll find a way.
     
  2. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    And db and indiansnetwork are cartoon characters so they don't count for the pro Tebow side.
     
  3. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    There hasn't been this much attention paid to the Broncos since their last six-game winning streak two years ago to start the 2009 season. Josh McDaniels, boy wonder!
     
  4. jlee

    jlee Well-Known Member

    True. In that regard, Tebow reminds me of Josh Freeman, who was praised for leading seven fourth-quarter comebacks in his first two seasons (including half the wins in the Bucs' 10-6 2010 season). Now that the wins aren't coming, the fans are griping about the Bucs' slow starts.
     
  5. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    As partial mitigation of Tebow's slow starts, when a team runs most of the time on first and second downs, its QB will have a lot of passes on third and long.
     
  6. BrianGriffin

    BrianGriffin Active Member

    Is that a mitigating factor or is the decision not to pass on first and second down because they have no faith in their ability to pass?
     
  7. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Could be that. Could be a lot of things. Could be a coach with a conservative philosophy that has worked for him in the past, such as when he led his team to a victory in the NFC championship game with a quarterback who completed 9 of 14 passes.

    Maybe if the Broncos fall behind by 17 points, we will see some of Tebow's fourth-quarter abilities in the second quarter. It seems, though, that there has been a command decision from the coaching staff to do nothing that interferes with the primarily goal of staying close into the fourth quarter. Myself, I would like to see more fourth-down attempts because I can't think of a better weapon on fourth-and-two in the entire NFL. But that isn't John Fox's philosophy.
     
  8. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Exactly. They are doing this to protect themselves from Tebow's weaknesses.
     
  9. BrianGriffin

    BrianGriffin Active Member

    Considering the Broncos are failing to sufficiently move the ball and score doing what they do, you'd think if they could pass, they would, right?

    I mean, they were behind 10-0 late in the fourth quarter last week. If they were running just because they are "committed" to the run somebody needs to be fired.

    No, they are running because they don't think they can pass.

    Maybe they should try coming out in an up-tempo no-huddle and allow Tebow to run something like a 2-minute drill early and see what happens.

    I don't think if you are a defense-and-field-position team, you go for it on fourth-a-1 anywhere near midfield or in minus-territory. Defeats the whole purpose of your approach. If you are capable of scoring points, then go for it and trade the times you give up field position for times you keep TD drives alive.

    But to me, if Denver's inept offense makes a fourth-and-1 at its own 40, that probably means its three plays away from punting from its 45. So why take the risk for five yards?
     
  10. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Look, if a team commits to the running game for any reason, whether it's because they don't trust their quarterback or because they have Jim Brown at tailback, they accept a lot of third and longs as part of the deal. And their quarterback's passing performance is negatively affected by that strategy. That doesn't make it a bad strategy. It doesn't necessarily prove their quarterback is a bad quarterback, either. It's just a fact of offensive life.
     
  11. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    There was a time that leading the league in rushing was considered an asset even though it typically led to low-scoring games. Weird, I know, but some teams spent many years attempting to win Super Bowls in this manner. Some of them even succeeded.
     
  12. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    We need to begin differentiating the terms "passer" and "quarterback".

    Because not trusting your quarterback by definition means he's not a good quarterback.

    But not trusting your quarterback to make certain throws only means he's likely not a good passer . . . but can excel in other quarterback duties.
     
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