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All-purpose, running Tim Tebow sucks/is a deity thread!

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by MisterCreosote, Dec 11, 2011.

  1. indiansnetwork

    indiansnetwork Active Member

    Not saying Tebow and Cam are going to be around for years but I do think while they are playing they will be spectacular once they have a little more seasoning. Either way I do think these guys will at least open the minds of NFL executives and coaches to a new approach of developing/drafting of QB's.
     
  2. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    Who Would Tebow Troll?
     
  3. BrianGriffin

    BrianGriffin Active Member

    What would be the difference between the way they are going to be developed and the way Vick, Vince Young and Steve Young (who was a fantastic runner, once upon a time) were developed? Heck, you can't even bring up size, considering Vince is about Tebow's size, a hair smaller than Newton.

    They will have to learn how to consistently throw it. Maybe like Steve (edit because I originally had typed "Vince," - yikes) Young and Staubach, they will. Maybe like McNabb (who, at 240 pounds, is physically similar to your two "revolutionaries"), they'll develop their passing skills somewhat, but never quite to an elite level. Maybe they'll remain sporadic passers like Vick (who did have a great 2010) and Vince Young.

    But nothing in their development will be new, outside of the unavoidable fact that they, like everybody else, are unique individuals and no two players develop exactly the same.
     
  4. BrianGriffin

    BrianGriffin Active Member

    I'll throw another runner/passer out there: Steve McNair. Thought of as a passer first, but he had four seasons of 400+ rushing yards, including 674 rushing yards in 1997. He averaged over 5 yards a pop for his career.

    And, at 6-2, 230, he had the powerful runner build of a Tebow and Newton.
     
  5. Bodie_Broadus

    Bodie_Broadus Active Member

    Warren Moon was a runner?

    EDIT: 1700 rushing yards over 17 seasons? That's like six per game, I doubt he could be considered a runner.
     
  6. BrianGriffin

    BrianGriffin Active Member

    Remember, Moon was getting close to 30 by the time he arrived in the NFL. He ran for about that many yards in six years in the CFL and was undrafted out of college because he was a roll-out passer who was considered a run-throw threat. Considering the time frame, some of that was probably racial, but he did move around well in his college and CFL days. He got to the NFL and learned the run-and-shoot and became the pure passer many doubted he would become.

    Man, he was 6-3, 210. I didn't know that. I always thought of him as more of a 6-footer, maybe 6-1.
     
  7. Deeper_Background

    Deeper_Background Active Member

    Tim Tebow SNL Skit Called 'Disgusting' by Pat Robertson


    December 20, 2011 8:04 PM EST

    The Tim Tebow SNL skit was a hit with many, garnering thousands of views online after Saturday Night Live aired the skit, which included an appearance by Jesus.

    Pat Robertson told viewers on the Christian Broadcasting Network's "700 Club" the Tim Tebow SNL skit was "anti-Christian bigotry that's just disgusting."

    "If this had been a Muslim country and they had done that, and had Muhammad doing that stuff, you would have found bombs being thrown off, and bodies on the street," Robertson said. "We need more religious faith in our society, we're losing our moral compass in our nation."

    As for the Denver Broncos quarterback who has soared to fame while leading the NFL team to a winning season, one might say Robertson, the 81-year-old televangelist, is in favor of "Tebowing."

    "I think (Tebow) is a wonderful human being. And this man has been placed in a unique position and I applaud him, God bless him," Robertson said.
    http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/270433/20111220/tim-tebow-snl-skit-called-disgusting-evangelist.htm
     
  8. Oggiedoggie

    Oggiedoggie Well-Known Member

    Would Tebow be able to troll?

    Wouldn't it be more of a stroll?

    But, he'd only need a couple of fish to fill the freezer.
     
  9. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    In all honesty, how did he play on Sunday?

    I didn't have a chance to watch any of the game. I saw it was 17-16 in the 2nd quarter on my phone, and figured he had a chance.

    By the time I looked again, there was less than a minute to go.

    The one article I read mentioned Denver fumbling three times. Did Tebow fumble?
     
  10. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Moon was a threat as a scrambler early in his NFL career, but he was primarily a passer. Not a guy I'd put in there with quarterbacks like Vick or even Steve Young.
     
  11. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member


    He did fumble, and it was kind of a dumb one -- the play was blown up in the backfield but he tried to finish the handoff. Can't do it. The other two were by Lance Ball and then, the really bad one, the punt returner dropping it with 10 seconds left to give New England a field goal.

    With all those extra possessions and then the ball coming out in the second half, New England went from down 16-7 to up 34-16. That was that, although the Broncos did move the ball and make it 34-23.

    He threw the ball quite well, I thought. And before the fumbles, they were killing the Patriots' D -- in the first quarter alone they gained 218 yards, 167 on the ground. Tebow had a great TD run, just arm-flexed himself out of the grasp of a sack, ran 10 yards and twisted away from two tackles for a TD. Would have been nice to see without the fumbles.
     
  12. BrianGriffin

    BrianGriffin Active Member

    He fumbled twice. He also was stripped of the ball in his own end zone but - and this is a compliment to his talent - he was strong enough to pick up the fumble (not fall on it, which would have been the wise choice) and he threw the ball away to avoid the safety.

    He also took a 28-yard sack and was above average by his standards in going 11-for-22 passing (but below average by the standard of the rest of pro football.

    And oh by the way, he made some incredible plays with his feet.
     
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