All Purpose UFC/MMA/That Kind Of Thing Thread

Brock tapped out to a knee lock Mir in the first round.

Quick summary of the match. If you guys didn't see it.
He got Mir on his back at the beginning and pounded away, even hit Mir in the back of the head. The ref called for a quick stoppage. Then Brock got him down again and was pounding away, but got up to try grab Mir's leg, but Mir reverse it and took Lesnar's leg and locked some sort of a knee hold on Lesnar.

Lesnar tapped out late in the first round.

 

Dave Meltzer called it a kneebar.

Saw the highlight on Sportscenter. Lesnar was throwing bombs, looking to live up to his pre-fight prediction of knocking Mir out. Mir, who is only a former UFC heavyweight champion, rolled over and hooked Lesnar's leg.

 

Lesnar had one can crushing for his experience prior to this fight. Mir was the favorite here even if the betting line didn't reflect it. Lesnar might be good sometime but he needs a lot more experience before people get excited.

 

Instead of going for the KO punch, Lesnar should have used his amateur wrestling to attack Mir.

 

I did not actually see this fight but I have seen countless talented and accomplished wrestlers take down sub masters only to get subbed. I think he would have been best off using his wrestling to keep the fight on the feet and only attempting take downs when he could pin Mir against the cage where Mir would not have much room to work. Again I did not see the fight so maybe he tried that and still failed.

All in all the worst match up for a guy like him at this stage in his career is someone who wants to be taken to the mat. UFC would have been better off giving him a less able ground fighter if they are interested in building him up for pay days.

 

Before falling asleep last night, I thought that Lesnar might benefit from a year of training on The Ultimate Fighter.

 

Just watched the fight on Dailymotion.com. Brock looked pretty good actually escaping an arm bar and landing some pretty solid blows if not technically sound. Watching it confirms my beleif he had a good shot if he kept it standing. The guy is going to be good if he wants to be people just asking alot of him early. I like his odds against almost any non sub expert.

Wrestler >Striker > Sub-fighter > Wrestler. Thats not a hard and fast rule but I find it mostly accurate when they play to their strengths.

 

Saw the fight live last night and here are some thoughts.

Going into the fight, I thought Mir was the worst possible matchup for Lesnar -- i.e. a submission expert against an inexperienced wrestler. I believe UFC did this for two reasons. 1) To show any new fans that, in the end, martial arts is the superior discipline and the sport isn't a joke. 2) Losing to Frank Mir isn't going to hurt Lesnar's reputation long term. It was just Lesnar's second fight and he was facing a former heavyweight champ who was far more skilled at submissions. Last night's result was what was SUPPOSED to happen. Now they can rebuild Lesnar against some lesser heavyweights and maybe in a year or two, he faces Mir again and gets the win.

As for the actual fight itself, I thought Lesnar looked as good as you can look for a guy who lost in 90 seconds. I had a HUGE problem with referee Steve Mazaggatti, who completed stunted Lesnar's momentum early on to deduct a point for hitting the back of the head. Any longtime watcher of MMA knows that referees always give warnings first, without stopping the action, especially if the blows aren't intentional. Mir was twisting around while Lesnar was punching and one (maybe two) inadvertently caught Mir on the back of the head. Mazaggatti stopped the action, and Lesnar's momentum. Mir was looking really overwhelmed.

Lesnar's striking was better than I had anticipated and he did get the best of the standup. He actually had a reach advantage on Mir.

Again, Mir did what he was supposed to do, but the future looks bright for Lesnar.

 

I found this interesting. I might be the only one. It's the linear history of the MMA heavyweight title as composed by Lee Casebolt of Total MMA

 

A full chapter by chapter summary of Matt Hughes autobiography can be found at the link below.

http://www.boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=77395

It seems that Matt Hughes is basically an asshole.

As a preview, the first fourchapters...

 

Kimbo Slice knocked Tank Abbot out cold in the fight this Saturday. Kimbo actually looked pretty good in the ring, landing some solid shots.

 

Rumor is Kimbo Slice is gonna fight Ken Shamrock next.
Kimbo is a joke and I can't wait to see him fight a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu expert and watch him tap like a bitch. Not surprisingly, Tank Abbott was gassed after climbing into the cage and Kimbo easily dismantled that over-the-hill fat bastard. Always fun to see that prick Tank Abbott get the snot beat out of him.
Hopefully Kimbo's turn is coming, soon. The sad thing is, fighting Ken Shamrock is supposedly going to legitimize Kimbo and a win will make him a "real" MMA fighter, except Shamrock is about 10 years (easily) past his prime.