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Another academic scandal; UNC is f-cked

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Uncle.Ruckus, Aug 14, 2012.

  1. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    I don't know if the colleges don't care about the writing part. The NCAA doesn't care about the writing part.
     
  2. Bob Cook

    Bob Cook Active Member

    Isn't the accepted wisdom that Notre Dame football started going downhill in a big way when the admissions office started requiring incoming players to, like any other student, be able to pass freshman calculus?
     
  3. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    That reminds me of a situation when I was first teaching/advising. I had a young man bitching about his having to take a P.E. course because he'd transferred in. I mentioned that I'd never had to take a P.E. course as an undergraduate (hard sciences before a shift into the softer Liberal Arts). His response was on the order of, "See, doesn't that suck?" Then I casually mentioned having to take four calculus courses (through ordered differential equations). There ended the bitching.
     
  4. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    That was part of it. Tyrone Willingham's uppityness was a bigger part.
     
  5. nmmetsfan

    nmmetsfan Active Member

    I thought Northwestern athlete was an oxymoron
     
  6. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    He would not even bother to show up to class. It would be an option not a requirement.
     
  7. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    Then cap the salary at $50K.

    Player can opt out at any time but they have the option to stay for four just like a scholarship.

    And they are treated in class like every other student as far as grading goes because the player will still suit up if he flunks out of Econ 101.
     
  8. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    If you're going down the road of paying them, why cap the salary at $50K? Surely Julius Peppers' fair market value was well into six figures and probably into seven.
     
  9. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    A scholarship is actually worth more than $50,000 at many schools. A lot more at some.

    But the real point is, if you do that, why have them associated with the university at all? Shouldn't the football team be a separate for-profit entity if you're going to base the players' worth on the revenue they bring in? If they are employees rather than students, what possible reason would there be for the team's affiliation with the school?
     
  10. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    I'm probably going to get shredded for this, but here goes:

    Why does any university, much less a flagship state school, need a major in African-American studies? Having classes on it makes perfect sense. Hell they probably should be required for history majors. But an entire department? I guarantee you that was considered a joke on campus before the first athlete wandered through. What practical purpose could that degree serve?
     
  11. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    Vanderbilt gets no love?
    Every conference has to have one bookworm in the frat house to make the rest look good.
     
  12. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    Vanderbilt has eased off the choke in recent years for athlete admissions. Not bringing in illiterates by any means, but kids that certainly don't fit the template on West End.
     
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