Assess the USA soccer situation here

Boom_70 · Jun 22, 2006

Pastor Crass said:

bobblehead said:

I'll just say this....

When is America's soccer salespeople going to just shut up?Â As Patton says, America loves a winner and will not tolerate a loser!Â What's going to be their next sales pitch: "Come get your asses kicked by Ghana!"Â At least the American baseball team in the WBC, a pathetic case in itself with such chokers as A-Rod in tow, lost to KNOWN baseball powers, like Japan.

The U.S. will never be dominant on the world stage in this sport, and they'll never sell it as a major sport in this country.Â Not getting their asses beat by third-world countries.

OK would-be soccer moms wearing facial hair and pants: Rip that.
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In the WBC, the US lost to Mexico as well.

Boom_70 said:

The USA was over hyped and expectations were raised too high.Â They clearly were over matched today vs Ghana.

I think a lot of this hype comes from over zealous marketers trying to sell the game to the US. Its all about the money and tv ratings.
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Again, not at all the case. They were not in any way shape or form "over-matched" by Ghana. The team was not over-hyped.

They didn't show up in the first game against the number 2 ranked team in the world. Then, with their backs to the wall, they pulled out a tied with a man down to Italy.

This game was theirs to take. The Bruce put in an awkward strategy that seemed as though he was playing for a 1-0 win or a 1-1 draw. However, some shit cards in the previous match forced the US to play certain people out of position.

With the next World Cup, you will surely see Convey, Gooch, and Dempsey. There are other players coming up that could also make a difference.
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Geez once again its wait another 4 years and you will really see something. I've hearing that for a lot of World Cups now.

Captain_Kirk · Jun 22, 2006

Pretty easy to sum up:

In soccer, we are the world's bitch, and we will continue to be for years to come.

MertWindu · Jun 22, 2006

Pastor Crass said:

bobblehead said:

I'll just say this....

When is America's soccer salespeople going to just shut up? As Patton says, America loves a winner and will not tolerate a loser! What's going to be their next sales pitch: "Come get your asses kicked by Ghana!" At least the American baseball team in the WBC, a pathetic case in itself with such chokers as A-Rod in tow, lost to KNOWN baseball powers, like Japan.

The U.S. will never be dominant on the world stage in this sport, and they'll never sell it as a major sport in this country. Not getting their asses beat by third-world countries.

OK would-be soccer moms wearing facial hair and pants: Rip that.
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In the WBC, the US lost to Mexico as well.

Boom_70 said:

The USA was over hyped and expectations were raised too high. They clearly were over matched today vs Ghana.

I think a lot of this hype comes from over zealous marketers trying to sell the game to the US. Its all about the money and tv ratings.
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Again, not at all the case. They were not in any way shape or form "over-matched" by Ghana. The team was not over-hyped.

They didn't show up in the first game against the number 2 ranked team in the world. Then, with their backs to the wall, they pulled out a tied with a man down to Italy.

This game was theirs to take. The Bruce put in an awkward strategy that seemed as though he was playing for a 1-0 win or a 1-1 draw. However, some shit cards in the previous match forced the US to play certain people out of position.

With the next World Cup, you will surely see Convey, Gooch, and Dempsey. There are other players coming up that could also make a difference.
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Crass, honestly, unless they reach the semifinals, how can a team called "The best team US Soccer has ever produced" NOT be over-hyped?

Dignan · Jun 22, 2006

Pastor Crass said:

With the next World Cup, you will surely see Convey, Gooch, and Dempsey. There are other players coming up that could also make a difference.
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Dempsey, to me, was the U.S.'s best player in the World Cup. Aggressive offensively, good ball-handler, scored the only goal.

Where was Landon Donovan? Did he just not show up, were the opponents' defense on him that good, or did Arena play him out of position?

Almost_Famous · Jun 22, 2006

4-5-1 is Arena's formation.
4 defenders
5 midfielders
1 forward

the idea is to control possession and build attacks, and attack with wings (Beasley, Dempsey). at least that's how i remember it.

It didn't happen.

Wow, many, many people already calling for the head of Arenas.

Ace · Jun 22, 2006

Almost_Famous said:

Wow, many, many people already calling for the head of Arenas.
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Why not?

Pastor · Jun 22, 2006

Boom_70 said:

Geez once again its wait another 4 years and you will really see something. I've hearing that for a lot of World Cups now.
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Really? A lot of World Cups? Or do you mean that you expected the US, which has only qualified since 1990 at the time using college players, to beat out the Czechs and Italy who have been at it for well over 100 years.

Right.

Tex, if you compare this group to the group the US faced in the last World Cup, you know the difference. This collection of talent is the best the US has ever had. The talent and skill of this group supercedes that of the last World Cup. The US just got lucky in the last one with who they face.

Jeff Gluck · Jun 22, 2006

The Czechs scored three times against us, then never scored again.

Idaho · Jun 22, 2006

Almost_Famous said:

Wow, many, many people already calling for the head of Arenas.
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What did Gilbert have to do with this failure?

JRoyal · Jun 22, 2006

So, if Arena is out, which I think he could be, who would be the hire? Or is it too early to start hoping Klinsmann would prefer to coach a team closer to where he lives?

Armchair_QB · Jun 22, 2006

JRoyal said:

So, if Arena is out, which I think he could be, who would be the hire? Or is it too early to start hoping Klinsmann would prefer to coach a team closer to where he lives?
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If you're US Soccer I think you have to at least ask him.

HoopsMcCann · Jun 22, 2006

i love no-nothing, knee-jerk reaction

bobblehead said:

I'll just say this....

When is America's soccer salespeople going to just shut up? Â
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maybe the same time you learn proper grammar -- i.e., not real soon

Songbird said:

Where the hell was Freddy Adu? If he's not yet Americanized, that's one thing, but he if he's a national now he should have been in the starting lineup for all 3 games.
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are you kidding? kid hasn't done much against mls competition -- much less against the world's best

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