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Aussie College Baseball Playa Killed By Bored Teens In Ok Narrative

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Boom_70, Aug 19, 2013.

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  1. Smallpotatoes

    Smallpotatoes Well-Known Member

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    The victim in the Martin case was walking home, as he had every right to do. He wasn't anywhere he wasn't supposed to be or doing anything he wasn't supposed to do.
     
  2. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

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    Yeah. There was no confrontation. The victim in Oklahoma was picked at random, and was shot in the back of the head.
     
  3. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

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    So he wasn't targeted because he was white?
     
  4. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

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    In big media? Charles Blow, Jonathan Capehart.

    Blow was "pitched" the story, and wrote one of the first major columns about it:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/17/opinion/blow-the-curious-case-of-trayvon-martin.html?pagewanted=all

    Look how he introduces race: One other point: Trayvon is black. Zimmerman is not.

    The first impression is that Zimmerman is white.

    Now, later, he tells us that the family says he's Hispanic:

    Zimmerman has not released a statement, but his father delivered a one-page letter to The Orlando Sentinel on Thursday. According to the newspaper, the statement said that Zimmerman is “Hispanic and grew up in a multiracial family.”

    But, Blow doesn't say that, Blow says he's not Black.
     
  5. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

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    Oh Lord. I suppose we don't know, do we? Do you know?

    We wasn't shot as a result of some meeting or confrontation. How we was targeted, I think remains unclear.
     
  6. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

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    And that gives him the right to attack and beat a neighborhood watch guy why exactly?
     
  7. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

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    BTW, the whole "skittles and iced tea" thing I hilarious too.

    Blow reports, "Trayvon had a bag of Skittles and a can of iced tea. Zimmerman had a 9 millimeter handgun."

    But, Trayvon didn't have a can of iced tea, and anyone who followed the case -- including every member of the media -- knows that. But, they never tell us what he did have for a couple of reasons.

    First, the media is so uncomfortable with race -- and with feeding the right wing trolls -- that they don't want to perpetuate a stereotype.

    Secondly, they don't want to get into why he bought skittles, and "a can of iced tea", as that would hurt the narrative that he was just a kid with a hankering for a snack.
     
  8. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

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    OK, I'll give you Charles Blow.

    At this point, I'm not challenging you. I'm genuinely curious about how this story developed, who covered it honestly, who didn't, etc., etc. I think we need to get beyond generalities. Wish I had some big blocks of time to really study it thoroughly. Really line up the NYT vs. the Journal, for example, to see how frequently it was covered, how the language was coded, and so forth and so on. Would love to do that with a lot of major domestic stories.

    I think you get the New Yorker, correct? Great, lengthy piece in the new issue about MSNBC that discusses, throughout, the various "roles" that the 24-hour news networks fall into. CNN's obsession with weather. HLN's crime fetish. And so forth.
     
  9. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

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    Let me re-phrase that: No one with an IQ over 30 played it that way. I understand that means a lot of race-baiters played it that way, but they'd have played it that way if it was Wilt Chamberlain and Monte Towe, so I don't really waste much time on what they think.
     
  10. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

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    A lot of missing pieces to the narrative. For example why did Martin's father wait until the next day to call the police about his missing son? What kind of
    responsible parent would not have wondered where his son was the night before?
     
  11. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

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    Blow: This is a nightmare scenario for any parent, and the events leading to Trayvon’s death offer little comfort — and pose many questions.

    But, Blow never asks why Martin's father didn't call the police that night, or go knock on doors in the neighborhood. We don't know why Chad Green -- Tracy's girlfriend's son -- never raised the alarm that Trayvon was missing.

    The press can't ask those questions. It can't question the parenting of a 14-year-old boy who's out on the streets of the Bronx at 3:00 AM firing a hand gun.

    But, let a gun get into a child's hand in Kentucky, and we not only question the parenting skills, we label the entire state backwards.
     
  12. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

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    There is a very fine distinction between the Kentucky story and the Martin story: One kid had a gun. The other did not.

    I get that this is a very subtle difference.
     
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