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Aussie College Baseball Playa Killed By Bored Teens In Ok Narrative

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Boom_70, Aug 19, 2013.

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  1. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Re: Austrialian College Baseball Player Killed By Bored Teens In Oka

    Sure.

    How many media members did their own reporting in this case?

    If you work (or ever worked) for a newspaper that did original reporting on this case, raise your hand.

    If you work (or ever worked) for a newspaper that sent a reporter to Sanford, raise your hand.
     
  2. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

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    No amount of original reporting experience means anything. If we didn't personally work on this case, we don't know what we're doing and we're easily fooled sheep.
     
  3. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    Re: Austrialian College Baseball Player Killed By Bored Teens In Oka

    By the way, were you in Sanford? What proof do you have that the crime scene photos aren't altered to fit someone else's agenda?
     
  4. Re: Austrialian College Baseball Player Killed By Bored Teens In Oka

    YF was more entertaining when he posted pictures of his wife's enormous real boobs instead of going the Alex Jones route.
     
  5. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

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    Don't put words in my mouth.

    I'm getting push back to my claim that -- in many cases -- a narrative is established early on, and the majority of the media goes with this narrative.

    Folks are saying this is impossible, because the media is big and diverse, and does not latch onto some established narrative.

    OK. If that's true, where do they get their information from? Do they do their own reporting?
     
  6. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Re: Austrialian College Baseball Player Killed By Bored Teens In Oka

    The police report doesn't list Martin as having a cell phone.

    I guess he didn't have one then.

    I wonder if anyone cooked up a "conspiracy theory" as to why it wasn't mentioned.

    Oh, look!

    https://twitter.com/CharlesMBlow/status/181912687264018432
     
  7. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

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    I'm going to toot my own horn here.

    I was not only one hell of a crime reporter, I was also one hell of a city editor. Meaning I eventually moved on to assigning others crimes and other stories to cover, and told them what information I needed.

    I was in charge of every word that got published. Believe me when I tell you I took that very seriously, as did my publisher, who had me under a very powerful microscope. I did this for SIX years.

    Not once during the course of this case did I see any glaring inconsistencies or hugely relevant mistakes, except from people who had their own agenda and were allowed to spin it under the constraints of the area of media they worked in.
     
  8. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

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    Interesting read about Trayvon and "Lean" ...

    http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/05/23/update-26-part-1-trayvon-martin-what-were-the-last-18-months-like-for-him/

    http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/05/24/update-26-part-2-trayvon-martin-shooting-a-year-of-drug-use-culminates-in-predictable-violence/
     
  9. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

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    This is so true and clearly the media now filling that need in abundance:

    "“Because people are not engaging with the kind of straight reporting in the same way that they used to, what we have now is a cult of journalism personality,” Blow said. “What we want to do is be told something that affirms what we already believe by somebody that we like and shares our beliefs.”

    As we debate the media narrative lets talk about someone else who is caught in the negative media narrative web -- Johnny Manziel. Clearly there are some in the "new"
    media who want to tear him down. And as Charles Blow said people believe what they
    want to believe.
     
  10. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

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    Not true.

    Who needs to get their facts right now?
     
  11. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

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    That narrative has been around SJ for a while. I think it
    was DD who originally put it in play. If they only knew......
     
  12. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

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    DD and I are on great terms these days. Lots of mutual respect. I wish he still hung around this place. We basically butted heads over a misunderstanding. We were talking about a criminal case in the news like this one, and I used the phrase, "You might be right" when he corrected me on a finer point. It was just a verbal affectation - I knew he was right. But he thought it was condescending. One has to choose one's words very carefully when e-communicating, because tone can be lost.
     
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