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Aussie College Baseball Playa Killed By Bored Teens In Ok Narrative

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Boom_70, Aug 19, 2013.

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  1. Smallpotatoes

    Smallpotatoes Well-Known Member

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    It's disgusting the lengths some people have gone to smear the kid.
     
  2. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

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    Who sold the narrative?

    Family lawyer Benjamin Crump:

    Who crafted the narrative?

    Meet Ryan Julison:

    So, the media didn't jump in. A PR executive comes on board, focuses on the "storyline" and knows that if he can get one media member to "go first" the rest of the media would "get in line".

    LOL. I couldn't say it any better myself.

    How does Julison describe what he does in general?

    So, they "managed the message" and "worked closely with local and national media" to get their "storyline" out there.
     
  3. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

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    YankeeFan may be wrong about the media's intent.

    He is not wrong about the media's outsourcing of the story and, more troubling, the reporting, to activists.
     
  4. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

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    I only wish Blow was honest about how he came across the Trayvon Martin case.

    He writes his column, quotes Crump, and uses the Julison storyline just after the big media push begins, and days after Sharpton first reported on it, discussed it on his radio show, and had his organization put out a statement.

    But, Blow doesn't want to be seen as a media stooge, so he says it was twitter that alerted him to the story:

     
  5. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

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    It doesn't matter if he's "a hack opinion columnist." He's Charles Blow of the New York Times, the paper of record. People are going to assume the facts reported in his column, if nothing else, are correct.
     
  6. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

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    Speaking of narratives ... 4,488 U.S. soldiers died because we don't "Cut and Run".

    And whatever happened to "Shock and Awe" anyways? Seems like 10 year ago, that's all we heard from THE MEDIA!! when we started that little adventure. They weren't pitched a narrative?

    My point is, YF, is that I would actually agree with you that the MEDIA! tend to stenograph too much. Sometimes, it's a necessary journalism tool, such as documenting Dr. King's speech. Other times, it's frequently just reporting what people say, without checking to see if their facts are correct. And sometimes, like when taking high school results, there only is one source for the information, or the two sources give different info (like yardage totals), and the reporter has to use their own best judgment.

    The problem is, YF, is that you're attributing this to some left-wing conspiracy, when in reality, it's done by nearly all media, hence my Iraq example. And it's not just recently that THE MEDIA! have followed a narrative. Look at the Dr. Sam Sheppard murder trial, when THE MEDIA (at that time, newspapers) pronounced him guilty of murdering his wife, even before the trial, making it, with the help of the corrupt judge, a total circus.
     
  7. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

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    2 things:

    1) It's sad that he was killed.

    2) Is it really smearing him? For all of the "smear" against GW, isn't it just providing factual details about the kid? Did someone alter his Facebook and Twitter and YouTube accounts? That's the thing with the Internet -- you leave a trail.
     
  8. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

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    The common thread in both these cases is cowardice. The media does not want to buck the conventional wisdom, or deviate from the established narrative -- especially if it will earn them criticism.

    Deviating from the Iraq narrative would result in your "patriotism" being questioned.

    Deviating from the Trayvon Martin narrative would get you labeled a racist.

    Not worth the trouble. Go with the narrative. Everyone else is. There is safety in numbers, and there's no reason being out on a limb all on our own.

    Maybe if someone else goes first, we'll follow.
     
  9. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

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    Go back and read the reactions to "Moneyball" among the BBWAA establishment.
     
  10. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

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    Which then leads to the question: Why the cowadice?

    Which then, to me, leads to one of the reasons why: 6 corporations control 90 percent of the media. If there's a backlash, it not only affects their media bottom line, it can affect their whole corporation. Which then pisses off their shareholders.
     
  11. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

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    No. It's a column written to serve an agenda. People are going to assume everything "reported" in his column serves his agenda.
     
  12. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

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    When I was covering preps, a local basketball star from the inner-city was shot and paralyzed mid-season. He was out at 3 a.m., at, apparently, a known crack house. You wouldn't have known it from our coverage, including mine. When he showed up in his wheelchair near the end of the season for some feel-good ceremony before a game, I wrote a column oozing with sentimentality. He was given a hero's treatment in our pages each day for seemingly months on end. Occasionally, readers and other coaches in the area would ask me something along the lines of, "What was he doing out at 3 a.m. on a Tuesday any way?"

    I would get angry about this. It was blaming the victim to me. My editor, a good-hearted liberal, set that tone, as well. No way would I have been able to write the alternate narrative, even on a localized story like that, and pleased the bosses.
     
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