Aussie College Baseball Playa Killed By Bored Teens In Ok Narrative

Boom_70 · Aug 28, 2013

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Smallpotatoes said:

Songbird said:

Interesting read about Trayvon and "Lean" ...

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/05/23/update-26-part-1-trayvon-martin-what-were-the-last-18-months-like-for-him/

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/05/24/update-26-part-2-trayvon-martin-shooting-a-year-of-drug-use-culminates-in-predictable-violence/
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It's disgusting the lengths some people have gone to smear the kid.
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Wait - he was a "child" . Get the narrative right.

MisterCreosote · Aug 28, 2013

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YankeeFan said:

The common thread in both these cases is cowardice. The media does not want to buck the conventional wisdom, or deviate from the established narrative -- especially if it will earn them criticism.
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Tell me what, specifically, was untrue about the "established narrative" other than the flavor of the drink he had in his pocket.

MisterCreosote · Aug 28, 2013

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Dick Whitman said:

When I was covering preps, a local basketball star from the inner-city was shot and paralyzed mid-season. He was out at 3 a.m., at, apparently, a known crack house. You wouldn't have known it from our coverage, including mine. When he showed up in his wheelchair near the end of the season for some feel-good ceremony before a game, I wrote a column oozing with sentimentality. He was given a hero's treatment in our pages each day for seemingly months on end. Occasionally, readers and other coaches in the area would ask me something along the lines of, "What was he doing out at 3 a.m. on a Tuesday any way?"

I would get angry about this. It was blaming the victim to me. My editor, a good-hearted liberal, set that tone, as well. No way would I have been able to write the alternate narrative, even on a localized story like that, and pleased the bosses.
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This has fuck-all to do with the Zimmerman case.

Armchair_QB · Aug 28, 2013

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MisterCreosote said:

YankeeFan said:

The common thread in both these cases is cowardice. The media does not want to buck the conventional wisdom, or deviate from the established narrative -- especially if it will earn them criticism.
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Tell me what, specifically, was untrue about the "established narrative" other than the flavor of the drink he had in his pocket.
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Well, the narrative didn't include the fact Martin was on top of Zimmerman beating the holy hell out of him when he got shot.

Boom_70 · Aug 28, 2013

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Armchair_QB said:

MisterCreosote said:

YankeeFan said:

The common thread in both these cases is cowardice. The media does not want to buck the conventional wisdom, or deviate from the established narrative -- especially if it will earn them criticism.
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Tell me what, specifically, was untrue about the "established narrative" other than the flavor of the drink he had in his pocket.
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Well, the narrative didn't include the fact Martin was on top of Zimmerman beating the holy hell out of him when he got shot.
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minor point even though there was a witness that testified to this.

Smallpotatoes · Aug 28, 2013

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Songbird said:

Smallpotatoes said:

Songbird said:

Interesting read about Trayvon and "Lean" ...

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/05/23/update-26-part-1-trayvon-martin-what-were-the-last-18-months-like-for-him/

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/05/24/update-26-part-2-trayvon-martin-shooting-a-year-of-drug-use-culminates-in-predictable-violence/
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It's disgusting the lengths some people have gone to smear the kid.
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2 things:

1) It's sad that he was killed.

2) Is it really smearing him? For all of the "smear" against GW, isn't it just providing factual details about the kid? Did someone alter his Facebook and Twitter and YouTube accounts? That's the thing with the Internet -- you leave a trail.
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How do you even know it's his Youtube or Facebook account? Lots of fake stuff has been put out there to try to portray him as a thug who had it coming to him. Somebody tried to pass off a photo of a 28-year-old rapper as Martin.
Whatever the "factual details" might be here, they have nothing to do with why he was killed.
And why would you trust a site that had "Be the next Breitbart" at the top. It's not like Breitbart had much in the way of credibility.

Armchair_QB · Aug 28, 2013

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Boom_70 said:

Armchair_QB said:

MisterCreosote said:

YankeeFan said:

The common thread in both these cases is cowardice. The media does not want to buck the conventional wisdom, or deviate from the established narrative -- especially if it will earn them criticism.
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Tell me what, specifically, was untrue about the "established narrative" other than the flavor of the drink he had in his pocket.
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Well, the narrative didn't include the fact Martin was on top of Zimmerman beating the holy hell out of him when he got shot.
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minor point even though there was a witness that testified to this.
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A witness also testified Martin thought Zimmerman might be gay too. So that makes the beating a hate crime.

Songbird · Aug 28, 2013

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MisterCreosote said:

Dick Whitman said:

When I was covering preps, a local basketball star from the inner-city was shot and paralyzed mid-season. He was out at 3 a.m., at, apparently, a known crack house. You wouldn't have known it from our coverage, including mine. When he showed up in his wheelchair near the end of the season for some feel-good ceremony before a game, I wrote a column oozing with sentimentality. He was given a hero's treatment in our pages each day for seemingly months on end. Occasionally, readers and other coaches in the area would ask me something along the lines of, "What was he doing out at 3 a.m. on a Tuesday any way?"

I would get angry about this. It was blaming the victim to me. My editor, a good-hearted liberal, set that tone, as well. No way would I have been able to write the alternate narrative, even on a localized story like that, and pleased the bosses.
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This has fuck-all to do with the Zimmerman case.
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It's the same thing.

You can report he was shot at 3 a.m. and as a result of that is paralyzed for life.

Or, you can report that he was shot and paralyzed -- and oh by the way he was shot at a crack house.

MC, how did GW get a bloodied face?

SP, I have yet to find a anything anywhere on the Web saying those pages are doctored.

MisterCreosote · Aug 28, 2013

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Armchair_QB said:

Well, the narrative didn't include the fact Martin was on top of Zimmerman beating the holy hell out of him when he got shot.
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That is flat-out untrue. Reports detailed that Zimmerman had a bloody and swollen face. Just like it said in the police report.

Armchair_QB · Aug 28, 2013

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MisterCreosote said:

Armchair_QB said:

Well, the narrative didn't include the fact Martin was on top of Zimmerman beating the holy hell out of him when he got shot.
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That is flat-out untrue. Reports detailed that Zimmerman had a bloody and swollen face. Just like it said in the police report.
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Yet a witness testified to that very fact in court.

But, yeah, it's untrue...

da man · Aug 28, 2013

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Baron Scicluna said:

YankeeFan said:

Baron Scicluna said:

The problem is, YF, is that you're attributing this to some left-wing conspiracy, when in reality, it's done by nearly all media, hence my Iraq example.
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The common thread in both these cases is cowardice. The media does not want to buck the conventional wisdom, or deviate from the established narrative -- especially if it will earn them criticism.

Deviating from the Iraq narrative would result in your "patriotism" being questioned.

Deviating from the Trayvon Martin narrative would get you labeled a racist.

Not worth the trouble. Go with the narrative. Everyone else is. There is safety in numbers, and there's no reason being out on a limb all on our own.

Maybe if someone else goes first, we'll follow.
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Which then leads to the question: Why the cowadice?

Which then, to me, leads to one of the reasons why: 6 corporations control 90 percent of the media. If there's a backlash, it not only affects their media bottom line, it can affect their whole corporation. Which then pisses off their shareholders.
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Hey, look! We're back to a media conspiracy again!

Smallpotatoes · Aug 28, 2013

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Songbird said:

MisterCreosote said:

Dick Whitman said:

When I was covering preps, a local basketball star from the inner-city was shot and paralyzed mid-season. He was out at 3 a.m., at, apparently, a known crack house. You wouldn't have known it from our coverage, including mine. When he showed up in his wheelchair near the end of the season for some feel-good ceremony before a game, I wrote a column oozing with sentimentality. He was given a hero's treatment in our pages each day for seemingly months on end. Occasionally, readers and other coaches in the area would ask me something along the lines of, "What was he doing out at 3 a.m. on a Tuesday any way?"

I would get angry about this. It was blaming the victim to me. My editor, a good-hearted liberal, set that tone, as well. No way would I have been able to write the alternate narrative, even on a localized story like that, and pleased the bosses.
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This has fuck-all to do with the Zimmerman case.
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It's the same thing.

You can report he was shot at 3 a.m. and as a result of that is paralyzed for life.

Or, you can report that he was shot and paralyzed -- and oh by the way he was shot at a crack house.

MC, how did GW get a bloodied face?

SP, I have yet to find a anything anywhere on the Web saying those pages are doctored.
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The whole point of that piece was that Martin had it coming. He didn't.

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