Aussie College Baseball Playa Killed By Bored Teens In Ok Narrative

LongTimeListener · Aug 29, 2013

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Zimmerman's wife said she wasn't home that night because they had a fight.

Was it a violent fight? Was George Zimmerman predisposed to violence? Was he in an agitated mood? Did the strain of what appears to be an interracial marriage finally get to him? And she says they might not stay together, but why? What does she know that we don't?

I'm not saying he killed Martin because he was all wound up from the end of his marriage. But the question must be asked.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmermans-wife-gma-20130829,0,1785518.story

YankeeFan · Aug 29, 2013

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LGBTQ activism has achieved so much in recent years. So why is hate against trans people still so tolerated?

Salon: http://bit.ly/1a2cXRR

When will the Times ask the same question, and look at who is committing the violence?

MisterCreosote · Aug 29, 2013

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Teena

Inky_Wretch · Aug 29, 2013

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LongTimeListener said:

Zimmerman's wife said she wasn't home that night because they had a fight.

Was it a violent fight? Was George Zimmerman predisposed to violence? Was he in an agitated mood? Did the strain of what appears to be an interracial marriage finally get to him? And she says they might not stay together, but why? What does she know that we don't?

I'm not saying he killed Martin because he was all wound up from the end of his marriage. But the question must be asked.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmermans-wife-gma-20130829,0,1785518.story
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Zimmerman was accused of molesting one of his cousins. Is Zimmerman a pedophile who was stalking Martin to molest him? The question must be asked. But the media narrative won't allow it.

Songbird · Aug 29, 2013

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What's this The Narrative™?

http://globalgrind.com/2013/08/29/sanford-man-tasered-in-head-by-police-trayvon-esque-attack-video/

MisterCreosote · Aug 29, 2013

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The only question is, will "The Next Trayvon" end up being used more than "The Next Jordan"?

Boom_70 · Aug 29, 2013

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MisterCreosote said:

The only question is, will "The Next Trayvon" end up being used more than "The Next Jordan"?
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Pat Riley has both phrases trademarked.

Smallpotatoes · Aug 29, 2013

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YankeeFan said:

Smallpotatoes said:

BenPoquette said:

Smallpotatoes said:

Maybe they'd have a point. But Trayvon was, and did, none of those things. He wasn't carrying so much as a pen-knife. He had no criminal record except being caught with weed residue. He didn't drop out of school and he got good grades. There are ten million young men like him who are considered good kids, not thugs. He was walking to his nearby home on a public sidewalk. Trayvon was almost as close to the opposite of the guy I described above. Nothing in common... except for their dark-colored skin.

Trayvon had every right to be where he was. He had a Constitutional right to his liberty and to the expectation that he not be detained without cause. Zimmerman was a make-believe cop; he had no right to assault or detain anyone unless he saw a crime being committed. Even real police have only a limited and delineated right to do that. He used deadly force to get himself out of a situation he created, based on unfounded suspicion, and then invented a vicious unprovoked attack to keep his sorry ass out of the slammer.
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Yep, Saint Trayvon was an innocent little babe in the woods...salt of the earth...I hear he even loved puppies. And that George Zimmerman...I can't wait until all this comes out in the trial and he gets what he deserves! Wait...what?
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Were any of those facts wrong?
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Facts can't be wrong. Much of what you wrote is not fact.

But, it is a beautiful recitation of the narrative. Have you committed it to memory?
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So Martin was armed, he was committing a crime when Zimmerman first saw him, he did get bad grades and drop out of school and had no right to be where he was?

Boom_70 · Aug 29, 2013

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Smallpotatoes said:

YankeeFan said:

Smallpotatoes said:

BenPoquette said:

Smallpotatoes said:

Maybe they'd have a point. But Trayvon was, and did, none of those things. He wasn't carrying so much as a pen-knife. He had no criminal record except being caught with weed residue. He didn't drop out of school and he got good grades. There are ten million young men like him who are considered good kids, not thugs. He was walking to his nearby home on a public sidewalk. Trayvon was almost as close to the opposite of the guy I described above. Nothing in common... except for their dark-colored skin.

Trayvon had every right to be where he was. He had a Constitutional right to his liberty and to the expectation that he not be detained without cause. Zimmerman was a make-believe cop; he had no right to assault or detain anyone unless he saw a crime being committed. Even real police have only a limited and delineated right to do that. He used deadly force to get himself out of a situation he created, based on unfounded suspicion, and then invented a vicious unprovoked attack to keep his sorry ass out of the slammer.
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Yep, Saint Trayvon was an innocent little babe in the woods...salt of the earth...I hear he even loved puppies. And that George Zimmerman...I can't wait until all this comes out in the trial and he gets what he deserves! Wait...what?
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Were any of those facts wrong?
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Facts can't be wrong. Much of what you wrote is not fact.

But, it is a beautiful recitation of the narrative. Have you committed it to memory?
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So Martin was armed, he was committing a crime when Zimmerman first saw him, he did get bad grades and drop out of school and had no right to be where he was?
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You forgot "had tats"

old_tony · Aug 29, 2013

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MisterCreosote said:

Back to the Australian baseball player for a moment, if you will.

The autopsy report was released Tuesday:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/australian-athlete-shot-bored-oklahoma-teens-felled-single-bullet-autopsy-article-1.1438202

The bullet that killed an Australian baseball player in a random attack this month collapsed both his lungs, fractured two ribs and tore through his aorta and pulmonary artery before lodging in his shoulder, the state medical examiner said Tuesday.
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First, I want to know what kind of Australian he is. Is he Aboriginal? They are descendent from criminals. Why hasn’t the media asked the question? Because it’s not part of the narrative?

Secondly, that’s an awful lot of damage for one bullet to cause. How do we KNOW that two ribs were fractured? To say nothing of the pulmonary artery? I’m not saying it’s not true, I just want someone in the media to ask the question.

The medical examiner's autopsy report supports the theory of Duncan police that Christopher Lane, 22, of Melbourne, was shot with a small-caliber weapon from behind by someone passing him in a car and that the shooter intended to kill the athlete by aiming for his upper torso.
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Didn’t the original report say Lane was jogging? Why isn’t that in this report? Is it because jogging could’ve been construed by the shooters as an act of aggression and therefore justify the killing? I’m not saying that’s true, I just want to know why no one in the media has asked the question. Could it be that it doesn’t fit the narrative?

Meanwhile in Lane's hometown of Melbourne, hundreds of mourners packed a suburban church on Wednesday for his funeral.
Lane's mother, Donna Lane, and American girlfriend, Sarah Harper, placed significant items around his coffin, including his baptismal shawl and school uniforms.
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Did anyone do a specific headcount at the funeral? How do we know the number isn’t inflated to make it a more powerful narrative?

Also, a baptismal shawl or a school uniform could be used to strangle someone. Are they significant because his loved ones wanted to elegize him as the wayward killer he was? Why isn’t the media asking that question?

"The bullet has a small caliber, is made of gray metal, with no jacket and has a round nose and visible markings that appear slightly deformed on the side," the autopsy said. Police have said Lane was killed with a .22-caliber handgun, and they found .22-caliber ammunition in a suspect's vehicle.
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What makes them so sure the bullet was gray? Couldn’t it have been black? If it was, who fed the medical examiner and the media such a falsehood? And, why doesn’t anyone care to correct it?

Also, lots of people carry .22-caliber ammunition. This report doesn’t specifically link the ammo to the gun used in the crime. Why not? What are people trying to hide?

The report suggests the bullet entered Lane's lower back on an upward trajectory, struck two ribs and passed through his esophagus, heart and lungs before stopping near his left shoulder.
"After penetrating the skin, the bullet passed forward, upward and to the right," the report said.
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If the bullet was coming from the right, it would’ve hit his trachea, not his esophagus. Why isn’t anyone questioning that narrative? Could it be because it would prove the original intention of the shooter was to paralyze him, not kill him, and it became fatal because Lane twitched just as the bullet entered his body? I just want someone in the media to ask the question.

Lane moved to Oklahoma to play baseball. He would have been a senior at East Central University and hoped to enter the real estate business.
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According to who? He could’ve wanted to enter the real estate business to sell property to the Australian mafia for dead-body storage. Why isn’t anyone asking that question? Because it doesn’t fit the narrative?

Duncan is about 80 miles south of Oklahoma City.
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Actually, it’s south-WEST, and it’s 81.7 miles away. Why is the media continuing to repeat this obvious error? In fact, depending on the route one takes, it could be up to 118 miles. Why isn’t anyone bothering to fix this? Because it doesn’t fit the narrative?
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You're usually sensible, so why are you intentionally being an idiot here?

old_tony · Aug 29, 2013

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Big Circus said:

This actually does bring up a tangential question that I've had...how on earth did a Division II public school in Oklahoma recruit an Aussie baseball player?
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Heck, my Division III school recruited Bjorn Borg's son to play on the tennis team.

old_tony · Aug 29, 2013

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Smallpotatoes said:

YankeeFan said:

Smallpotatoes said:

BenPoquette said:

Smallpotatoes said:

Maybe they'd have a point. But Trayvon was, and did, none of those things. He wasn't carrying so much as a pen-knife. He had no criminal record except being caught with weed residue. He didn't drop out of school and he got good grades. There are ten million young men like him who are considered good kids, not thugs. He was walking to his nearby home on a public sidewalk. Trayvon was almost as close to the opposite of the guy I described above. Nothing in common... except for their dark-colored skin.

Trayvon had every right to be where he was. He had a Constitutional right to his liberty and to the expectation that he not be detained without cause. Zimmerman was a make-believe cop; he had no right to assault or detain anyone unless he saw a crime being committed. Even real police have only a limited and delineated right to do that. He used deadly force to get himself out of a situation he created, based on unfounded suspicion, and then invented a vicious unprovoked attack to keep his sorry ass out of the slammer.
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Yep, Saint Trayvon was an innocent little babe in the woods...salt of the earth...I hear he even loved puppies. And that George Zimmerman...I can't wait until all this comes out in the trial and he gets what he deserves! Wait...what?
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Were any of those facts wrong?
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Facts can't be wrong. Much of what you wrote is not fact.

But, it is a beautiful recitation of the narrative. Have you committed it to memory?
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So Martin was armed, he was committing a crime when Zimmerman first saw him, he did get bad grades and drop out of school and had no right to be where he was?
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Actually Martin's grades remain unknown under the protection of privacy laws. Anyone with an IQ over 40 understands that if they were actually really good grades his parents would have been trumpeting them and they'd have been released long ago as part of the prosecution's case.

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