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Aussie College Baseball Playa Killed By Bored Teens In Ok Narrative

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Boom_70, Aug 19, 2013.

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  1. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    You're also forgetting another aspect in this: With the debate over gun control, you had Zimmerman claiming he was standing his ground, which is one part of the debate.

    From your favorite columnist:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/25/opinion/blow-standing-our-ground.html?_r=0
     
  2. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Details did emerge, but the narrative remained unchanged. That's the point.

    People had already made up their minds, and their minds were made up thanks to a PR drafted narrative.
     
  3. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Sure. That was part of it.

    Blow didn't mention "Stand Your Ground" in his initial column, but the first Times news story did.

    Getting the ant-gun crowd whipped up helped add to the drum beat that led to Zimmerman facing charges, and appealed to the media.
     
  4. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    I was agreeing with your point.
     
  5. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    So the news story wasn't following "The Narrative"? I thought "The Narrative" in this was racially-based?

    According to this, there are roughly 13,000 murders per year in the U.S.

    http://www.juancole.com/2013/01/firearm-murders-equiv.html

    Which is over 40 per day. In one case, a guy who was a neighborhood watchman claims he was doing the right thing, got into a physical confrontation, and killed the other person with a gun. He claims what he did was legal by the state's own laws.

    Don't you think this is just a bit different than the other 40-something daily murders from botched robberies, from passion, gang killings, or just plain crazy idiots deciding to kill someone? How often does someone claim the state gave him the right to kill someone?

    That is why this case received the attention from THE MEDIA!!! It's a news story. It didn't need a PR push.
     
  6. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Baron, did you read all of the pieces YF posted about the process of this story. It's rather fascinating.

    It was all PR push. Hard push.
     
  7. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    "Stand Your Ground" had nothing to do with it?
     
  8. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    Since it's so important to you in the Zimmerman case, I was just trying to give you more examples to deconstruct. It sounds too important to limit to just one case.
     
  9. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    The two examples I suggested that might have gotten lost earlier in this thread are Emily Bazelon's book, "Sticks and Stones," and its chapter on the Phoebe Prince bullying suicide story, and the recent New Yorker piece on the Steubenville rape.
     
  10. BenPoquette

    BenPoquette Active Member

    I was thinking the exact same thing. I think there are people on here who argue against the typical "board conservatives" for the hell of it.
     
  11. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    I think YF hit the nail on the head when he answered MC, who had a valid point, in that no one in the biz who's worth their salt wants to be told what his/her journalism job is or how to carry out his/her responsibilities -- especially when that person repairs coffee machines.
     
  12. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Unfortunately Blow refuses to look at the whole picture. What he does not say
    is that his boys are at greater risk of violence at hands of other black teens. Especially
    if they lived in Chicago. I think most would be more receptive to the thoughts of
    people like Blow and Sharpton if they showed some intellectual honesty and looked
    at the entire landscape.
     
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