Avs beat writer suffers Twitter meltdown

Doc Holliday · Oct 10, 2014

It is Fucking amazing what some people think is OK to do and get away with these days in the work place. He acted like an insane imbecile and it's obvious he was drunk while representing his employer in a public forum.

If you went to Burger King and a drunk employee demeaned your gender, called you a dick or a pussy, then started cursing everyone around you who came to your defense, do you think that asshole should keep his job?

Your opinion is a sad state of the America we live in today.

This fucker should be fired, whether he has a family to support or not. He made his own bed when he couldn't control his alcohol consumption.

LongTimeListener · Oct 10, 2014

Dick Whitman said:

Versatile said:

He objectified women and cursed at his readers and a colleague who was trying to help when they called him on it. He did it all to make a raging fanboy point about the team he covers. Given that this isn't his first blowup, how could anyone argue against firing him (or at least moving him off the beat)? Well, you know, unless you "Know Adrian pretty well" but are "not that close."

There are hundreds of talented journalists who would apply to be The Denver Post's Avalanche beat reporter. Most of them probably wouldn't publicly embarrass the organization with a sexist and profane rant directed at readers and a player for a rival team.
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I think that some of us are pretty reluctant to call for the firing of someone who presumably has a wife, kids, a mortgage, etc., etc. Maybe he deserves it. I don't know. But weight the stakes against the offense - essentially an anger management problem, apparently, on social media - the idea of this guy losing his job makes me, and others here, I think, a little queasy.
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I would love to hear management explain to the women of the Post that "pussy" is an acceptable word, or one that isn't acceptable but isn't really that bad.

Versatile · Oct 10, 2014

Good luck covering the next misogyny scandal in sports with that attitude.

BurnsWhenIPee · Oct 10, 2014

Doc Holliday said:

Come on? Yeah. He should be fired. He's supposed to be professional. Obviously, he's more juvenile than professional. If I had an exchange like that with readers or others, I'd be fired. That's the expectation for all of us. I'd fire his ass the second I had the chance. I don't give a damn how good a guy or reporter he is or if he has a family of eight or three goldfish. The only way that idiot learns from his mistake is the hard way. Damn drunk bastard.
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The part none of us know is what his interaction with bosses and co-workers have been like over the years. We know about 2 public rants he's gone on.

Who wants to bet the rest of his work relationships and interaction with readers have been fully professional and appropriate? Not me. And if he comes through this one unscathed (other than the 2-week sitdown), the message sent to him is that what he did really wasn't THAT bad.

PW2 · Oct 10, 2014

Did the writer admit that he was drinking?

Doc Holliday · Oct 10, 2014

BurnsWhenIPee said:

Doc Holliday said:

Come on? Yeah. He should be fired. He's supposed to be professional. Obviously, he's more juvenile than professional. If I had an exchange like that with readers or others, I'd be fired. That's the expectation for all of us. I'd fire his ass the second I had the chance. I don't give a damn how good a guy or reporter he is or if he has a family of eight or three goldfish. The only way that idiot learns from his mistake is the hard way. Damn drunk bastard.
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The part none of us know is what his interaction with bosses and co-workers have been like over the years. We know about 2 public rants he's gone on.

Who wants to bet the rest of his work relationships and interaction with readers have been fully professional and appropriate? Not me. And if he comes through this one unscathed (other than the 2-week sitdown), the message sent to him is that what he did really wasn't THAT bad.
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If he worked for me, he'd be out of a job. But you're right, the message they're sending is that it really wasn't that bad.

RecoveringJournalist · Oct 13, 2014

BurnsWhenIPee said:

Doc Holliday said:

Come on? Yeah. He should be fired. He's supposed to be professional. Obviously, he's more juvenile than professional. If I had an exchange like that with readers or others, I'd be fired. That's the expectation for all of us. I'd fire his ass the second I had the chance. I don't give a damn how good a guy or reporter he is or if he has a family of eight or three goldfish. The only way that idiot learns from his mistake is the hard way. Damn drunk bastard.
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The part none of us know is what his interaction with bosses and co-workers have been like over the years. We know about 2 public rants he's gone on.

Who wants to bet the rest of his work relationships and interaction with readers have been fully professional and appropriate? Not me. And if he comes through this one unscathed (other than the 2-week sitdown), the message sent to him is that what he did really wasn't THAT bad.
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I can't speak for his relationship with readers, but I've always gotten the sense he was well-liked by co-workers.

LanceyHoward · Oct 13, 2014

MileHigh said:

RecoveringJournalist said:

RedCanuck said:

I agree with RecoveringJournalist here, the responses posted with the Deadspin story were way out of line and I do recall the ESPN rant and its aftermath here. Dater may be have a long history and be good at covering the sport — I really haven't read him in a while, but presume that's the case for him to have that kind of longevity — but he crossed the line a few times here and there are many other damned good reporters out there looking for work.
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The Post also has a veteran hockey writer (Terry Frei) covering one of the college beats. I don't know how that happened, maybe it was by choice, but it seems curious when a writer as well-respected as Terry, who has logged time as a national NHL writer and was a backup columnist is now on a secondary beat. Maybe that's a story in and of itself, but I tend to doubt it. I've always had an extremely high opinion of Terry, as a person and as a writer.
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Yeah, lots of shifting of the deck chairs the past few months, and Terry on the CSU beat was the most curious of all.
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I am stunned that someone as talented as Frei is on the number six beat in Denver. Actually I am stunned that the Post has anyone on it. The Post bought the Loveland paper and their sports editor seems to covering them also. The Post also owns the Boulder paper and they appear to have two staffers on CU sports. But the Post also has a beat reporter on the Buffs. They seem to have an awfully large staff. Which is great but surprising.

RecoveringJournalist · Oct 14, 2014

LanceyHoward said:

MileHigh said:

RecoveringJournalist said:

RedCanuck said:

I agree with RecoveringJournalist here, the responses posted with the Deadspin story were way out of line and I do recall the ESPN rant and its aftermath here. Dater may be have a long history and be good at covering the sport — I really haven't read him in a while, but presume that's the case for him to have that kind of longevity — but he crossed the line a few times here and there are many other damned good reporters out there looking for work.
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The Post also has a veteran hockey writer (Terry Frei) covering one of the college beats. I don't know how that happened, maybe it was by choice, but it seems curious when a writer as well-respected as Terry, who has logged time as a national NHL writer and was a backup columnist is now on a secondary beat. Maybe that's a story in and of itself, but I tend to doubt it. I've always had an extremely high opinion of Terry, as a person and as a writer.
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Yeah, lots of shifting of the deck chairs the past few months, and Terry on the CSU beat was the most curious of all.
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I am stunned that someone as talented as Frei is on the number six beat in Denver. Actually I am stunned that the Post has anyone on it. The Post bought the Loveland paper and their sports editor seems to covering them also. The Post also owns the Boulder paper and they appear to have two staffers on CU sports. But the Post also has a beat reporter on the Buffs. They seem to have an awfully large staff. Which is great but surprising.
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Yeah, the staff is roughly half the size it was a decade ago, but I don't think they've scaled back coverage on any of the main beats. I'm sure the three remaining copy editors are thrilled by that.

MileHigh · Oct 14, 2014

The sharing of content rules that are supposed to be in place within DFM don't always apply to the Post, certainly not in sports. Because if they did, there would not be a doubling-up of the CU beat with Boulder and the CSU beat with Loveland. You would think the bean counters at a company like DFM, which is losing money and has suffered numerous layoffs and is on the market with no takers, would recognize that sending someone from the Longmont paper and someone from the Post to Reno for an 8:30 p.m. Saturday night CSU kickoff is not necessary. Or to Boston for a CSU-Boston College game. Or to Boston again when CU played Massachusetts.

And it's certainly not reciprocated the other way, as in the other DFM papers in Colorado do not get all of the content from the Post, most notably the alleged "scoop" of Pat Bowlen stepping away from day-to-day operations of the Broncos. Those papers found out like everyone else -- when the Post dropped it online at 2 a.m.

RecoveringJournalist · Oct 15, 2014

I thought they were trading Broncos coverage for Air Force coverage with the Springs paper, but last I checked they still had someone traveling with Air Force.

They would be better off using the Camera for CU coverage, the Fort Collins paper for CSU coverage and the Springs paper for AFA coverage, and that would free up considerable resources.

LanceyHoward · Oct 15, 2014

RecoveringJournalist said:

I thought they were trading Broncos coverage for Air Force coverage with the Springs paper, but last I checked they still had someone traveling with Air Force.

They would be better off using the Camera for CU coverage, the Fort Collins paper for CSU coverage and the Springs paper for AFA coverage, and that would free up considerable resources.
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I think that Colorado Springs started staffing Denver sports again when ownership changed.

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