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Bank CEO thinks journalist salaries are 'outrageous'

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by MisterCreosote, Feb 29, 2012.

  1. Point of Order

    Point of Order Active Member

    Yeah, that's kinda my whole point. I concede that he is, as you say, "one of the nation's best known, and most respected bankers for over 20 years." And I repeat:

    He participated in deals that were patently unfair and corrupt -- probably every day of the mid-2000s. He is a leader in an industry that was financing loans that they knew could not be repaid as they analyzed the borrower's financial strength so they could get the enormous transaction fees at closing that were a percentage of the total deal. Why else did they finance these loans? Because at the very time they were financing them they were syndicating the debt, ie moving it out the back door so they did not have to hold onto it, thus having no incentive in the loan being repaid.
     
  2. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Here is the thing. I predict that as a result of Dodd-Frank -- unless it gets overturned, which is a distinct possibility due to the necessity (not because of Democratic / Republic bickering), since the effects are now being seen -- you will see the large, full-service banks mostly abandoning branch banking. Or, if they can get past the PR problem they got smacked with as a result of their reaction to Dodd-Frank, you will see companies like Bank of America, for example, offering only accounts that are loaded with up front fees. No more free checking. Truthfully, though, the PR headache of making people see why that is necessary doesn't seem to be worth it to them, which is why they are treading gingerly and seem to be heading away from emphasizing that business, and seem to be making plans to abandon it. It just isn't worth their effort, when they are hampered by all kinds of outside influences in their ability to make the business profitable.

    The true test of whether what you deem acceptable revenue sources can make a viable business under all of those regulations, will be if they don't abandon whole neighborhoods, or if others step in to fill what will be an obvious void as branches disappear from lower class and middle class neighborhoods.

    I don't see that happening, because with an environment in which lending has slowed down to a crawl, and regulations that take away possible revenue sources that could possibly make it a viable business, the business looks like a dog -- at least from what I am seeing from companies like BoA and Chase.

    Which leadsus back to the lesson about what happens when populist rhetoric about "screwing us over" leads to populist-driven regulations (Dodd-Frank), which get enacted without foresight for their consequences and then have the effect of hampering businesses ability to operate profitably within a segment (in this case, branch banking).

    Chase, at least has stated publicly, that it isn't worth being involved in branch banking under those regulations. BofA can't figure out a way to make it work.

    So congrats. They're not screwing people over anymore, using your measure. They just don't want to be in the business. I'll wait to see if anyone else fills that void, given the restraints on operating. That would prove what I am sayingw rong. I'm dubious. Which is why I ultimately think Dodd Frank will be repealed--by necessity, not because of political wrangling.
     
  3. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    If we hadn't deregulated them, we wouldn't have had to re-regulate them.
     
  4. Magic In The Night

    Magic In The Night Active Member

    Banks also use plenty of their profits on lobbying fees, just to make sure those Congresscritters don't "screw them over" with legislation not friendly to them. I believe they are still the leading liner of lobbyists' pockets.
     
  5. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    Well that explains why you could drive thousands of miles and never see a bank between FDR's election and the 1990s. Or why my credit union has to have bake sales and pledge drives just to keep the lights on.

    It very well may not be profitable for a mega bank to have retail outlets in 45 states. But it may also reopen the game for community banks to increase their share and make money the hard way, building relationships and becoming the go-to for mortgages, small business loans and the like.
     
  6. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Dixie,

    Dodd Frank applies to community banks, as well as large banks, and in some ways it hits them harder. In particular, the Durbin Amendment is hitting community banks, even though paradoxically the amendment tried to exclude them.

    It put arbitrary government-created price limits on the electronic interchange fees--the money banks charge merchants every time someone swipes a debit card or credit card to make a purchase.

    The amendment exempts community banks from the fee limit (which is 7 cents per swipe, and technically covers the cost to banks, but then leaves the banks on the hook for costs incurred as a result of fraud -- when they have to freeze accounts and reissue cards, they are not allowed to charge for it and they can't add those costs, which are significant, into the swipe fees anymore).

    The problem with trying to exempt community banks from that forced price ceiling is that they compete with the larger banks. So now they are in the position of either meeting the artificially low price-fixed fee imposed by the government or losing their ability to market debit and credit cards. If their price per swipe is higher than the rest of the market (and it has to be for them to profit), merchants don't want to deal with them.

    In a recent survey by the Independent Community Bankers Association, 93 percent of community banks said they are facing being forced to charge customers for debit card and checking services that had previously been free.

    That is due to the government interference, and it is just beginning to play its way out, because Dodd Frank is still being put into place.
     
  7. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Here is a letter the Independent Community Bankers Association wrote to Congress.

    It is a PDF, so you may or may not want to open it: Independent Community Bankers Association: http://www.icba.org/files/ICBASites/PDFs/ltr121911.pdf

    It reads:

    Here is the WSJ article he references. It's worth reading rather than skipping. It's a good lesson on the consequences (which they call "unintended," but were easily predicted and WERE predicted by people) of government price fixing and interference in private transactions.
    And it demonstrates how it has started a chain reaction that means higher prices for consumers.

    http://online.wSportsJournalists.com/article/SB10001424052970204319004577084613307585768.html
     
  8. TrooperBari

    TrooperBari Well-Known Member

    Or, if you can't, at least don't say these:
    http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-things-rich-people-need-to-stop-saying/
     
  9. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member


    Some banks' attitude towards this adjustment speaks volumes.

    To those insects: Just put the fangs in and suck ALL the blood, why don't you?
     
  10. lono

    lono Active Member

    Salary, bonus and stock options for Dimon in 2010: $42 million.

    Nice work if you can get it.
     
  11. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    He's gonna need a lot more shiny dimes.
     
  12. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    More than half of that $42 million was from options on grants that were made in previous years, so it was really compensation from past years that he took in 2010.

    His total compensation in 2010 was actually $20.8 million.

    Again, a great salary, if you can get it.

    For what it is worth, JP Morgan profited $17.4 billion in 2010. It made it the fifth most profitable company in the world.
     
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