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Baseball Hall of Fame ballot released

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Hank_Scorpio, Nov 27, 2009.

  1. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    What did he say, Zeke? Was he pissed? Diplomatic?
     
  2. Hank_Scorpio

    Hank_Scorpio Active Member

    ESPN's Jim Caple has some suggestions for improving the election process. This was written before the results came out.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=caple/100106&sportCat=mlb


    One of the interesting notes:
    If you don't vote for someone that receives a certain amount of the vote (he suggests 92 percent), you lose your vote.
     
  3. Herbert Anchovy

    Herbert Anchovy Active Member

    Mike, I would. In fact the last time I was there we didn't even mess with the plaque gallery.

    The process is not polluted or broken. It's scandalous.
     
  4. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    Fans should never have a say.
    All living Hall members are the Veterans Committee and they're more petty than the BBWAA.

    As for the blank ballots, I know someone who did that in the past, don't know what he did this year.
    Gee can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think if you don't submit a ballot you lose your voting privilege. If a guy legitimately feels no one on this ballot is a Hall of Famer, I see no problem with a blank ballot.
     
  5. Flying Headbutt

    Flying Headbutt Moderator Staff Member

    I have no problem with blank ballots, assuming those five really believe no one who was eligible deserved to be in.

    But if they turn around and vote someone like Larkin or Alomar in next year, then it becomes a joke. The whole idea that the first ballot is a sacred one is outdated tripe.
     
  6. Hank_Scorpio

    Hank_Scorpio Active Member

    I think you're right about having to submit a ballot to keep it.

    I know this isn't the first year blank ballots have been returned. Hell, I'd bet there's at least one each year.
     
  7. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    Happy to have the support he has, pointed to Greinke and Lincecum's Cy Youngs as correct decisions reflecting the change in conventional wisdom regarding wins, effusive praise for Dawson and spoke about how much it means to not only the player but his family and friends, said he certainly hopes he can experience what Dawson is experiencing right now.

    Edit: Singled out Rich Lederer by name and thanked him for his support.

    Costas and Gammons were adamant that he would be a fantastic Hall of Famer.
     
  8. Elliotte Friedman

    Elliotte Friedman Moderator Staff Member

    Anyone who submits a blank ballot should lose their voting privileges.
     
  9. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    I do not believe non-voters lose the privilege. The percentage of ballots cast is never 100 percent of eligible members, and we'd hear about it if somebody lost their voting rights.
     
  10. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    The spitting thing. I've read a few pieces in which the writer, who's a voter, said that under no circumstance would they ever vote in Alomar because he stepped over the boundary of decency with that face-spit.
     
  11. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    What if they legitamately feel there is nobody that is hall worthy? I'm not saying that's the case here, I would have voted for Alomar, Raines and Blyleven.
     
  12. buckweaver

    buckweaver Active Member

    Hell, it's worse than outdated: It's faux-outdated.

    Nobody paid much attention to first-ballot selections until the last 30 years. Sure, the best guys got in as early as possible. But it wasn't an "honor," just common sense.

    A Hall of Famer is a Hall of Famer. Period.
     
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