Baseball Hall of Fame ballot released

It's the longevity vs. dominance debate. Blyleven was consistently very good. Morris was the best pitcher in the game for about a decade. It's a valid argument.

 

That's not a bad point. My only argument to that is two wrongs don't make a right. Besides, if you've voted that way for 30 years, and over those 30 years other writers vote players in that you thought were marginal, does that mean you have to change your criteria? I can't answer that question, since it wasn't my vote.

 

I know people make this argument a lot, but I think it's a faulty one. A voter is in charge of his or her vote, not the votes in the past. So a voter with a ballot in hand today shouldn't have to worry about who's already in. It's not hypocritical to avoid voting for someone you think is subpar because there are already supposedly subpar players in the Hall. You can control only your vote.

 

I love the "If you have to think about it, then they don't deserve to make it."

I think that's true about 95 percent of the time.

 

Blyleven was much more dominant over his best stretch than Morris ever was in his. This isn't fucking hard, Mizzou.

 

Please tell me which ten years he was the best pitcher in baseball.

 

Bullshit. Not even close.

 

No, he was the pitcher with the most wins in the decade. I'm not sure there was ever even one year that he was the best pitcher in the game. The guy led his league in victories twice and was never better than fifth in ERA for any one season. Morris never had an ERA under 3.00 for a single season. His best was 3.05.

Blyleven had an ERA below 3.00 nine times.

 

60 shutouts.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/twins/80755642.html?elr=KArksi8cyaiUqCP:iUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiUr

 

Dawson: 49 HR, 32 BB in 1987. That's some surplus.

 

Recapping:
Travis Jackson was a veterrans' committee choie. Rabbit Maranville (who has no right being in) was elected in 1954. Pretty sure most of those voters are now dead.

If so, no Blyleven, no Dawson, no Rice etc., etc.


I never said Randy Jiohnson wasn't a lock first-ball Hall of Famer. What I sdaid was a lot of people here want to tell everybduy how to vote or take their vote away. Preposterous.

 

Here, Mizzou, I'll make it really easy for you.

Here's Morris:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/morrija02.shtml?redir

Here's Blyleven:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/blylebe01.shtml?redir

I'll take Blyleven's first eight seasons. You can pick Morris' eight best. Show me how Morris compares. And keep in mind, I love Jack Morris. He pitched the greatest game I have ever seen. But someone once said Jack Morris was the best pitcher of the decade, and all of a sudden, people start remembering shit that didn't happen.

You cannot vote for Morris and not vote for Blyleven. Blyleven was better at his best, and better for longer. Full stop.