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Baseball Hall of Fame ballot released

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Hank_Scorpio, Nov 27, 2009.

  1. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    Agree with every word Waylon posted.
     
  2. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Voting against the majority is fine, if there is a good reason for it. The problem is those who don't do it for a good reason.
     
  3. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    There is no Hall of Fame in any sport where there aren't flaws in the selection process, even the LPGA Tour Hall, where there's no selection, win X number of tournaments and you're in. Problems are inescapable. That doesn't mean processes can't be improved, but they'll never be perfected.
     
  4. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Keep the vote the way it is now, change the level you need to get in.

    75% in one year or at least 60% in five consecutive years.
     
  5. "No good reason" according to who? You? Why do you get to decide? Some writers believe there is something special about a first-ballot Hall of Famer. A lot of fans agree. I remember growing up, the biggest compliment my dad could give an active player was, "Hall of Fame, first ballot." The idea that first ballot entry is special is not some kook fringe idea. It's fairly entrenched, whether you agree that it's a "good reason" or not. There's a margin of error built into the process. Some guys probably even just space it on writing a guy's name in. Haven't you ever blown an easy question on a test?
     
  6. Simon_Cowbell

    Simon_Cowbell Active Member

    95 means you are solely voting as such to prevent the unanimous pick. Toss them.

    Alomar spit on an umpire.

    No first-ballot HOFer
     
  7. No good reason for this.
     
  8. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    Why change the level needed to get in?
    You guys all complain about guys getting in who don't belong in, then you want to make it easier for people to get in. Doesn't make a bit of sense.
     
  9. Why? They've earned the right to believe that no one should be unanimous. They covered the game for 10 years or more. What is so wrong with the fact that Greg Maddux will go in with 98.6 percent instead of 100?
     
  10. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    I understand why some guys didn't vote for Alomar because of the Hirshbeck incident.
    But how do you know somebody didn't vote for a guy just to keep him from being unanimous? And that voter is OK if a guy gets 94.6% but not if he gets 95.2%
     
  11. Should Americans who voted for Ron Paul have their vote taken away from them?
     
  12. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Yes, but not just because there are so few of them.
     
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