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Baseball should either put up or shut up

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by creamora, May 3, 2007.

  1. Oz

    Oz Well-Known Member

    creamora, I'm more curious to see your response to 21's questions.
     
  2. Guess he didn't see those questions. ::)
     
  3. creamora

    creamora Member

    The world is finally beginning to realize that there are two sets of rules in baseball as well in other sports. The official rules and the real rules. There is a level playing field, it's just not the on everyone thought it was. The accountability for the rampant use of drugs in baseball lies with those who have controlled the financial aspects of the game. They've known all along about the rampant use of drugs in baseball. Bud Selig sat before Congressional committee members and basically told them that baseball didn't have a drug problem. He is either a complete fool or a one of the biggest enablers of performance enhancing drug use in history. The accountability for the long history of drug use in baseball does not belong to Barry Bonds. Sports journalists who have tried to convince the public that the problem is about Bonds and his character have provided a tremendous disservice. The fans deserve to know the truth regarding who is really accountable for baseball's state of mass of confusion. By focusing upon Bonds, journalists have simply lead the public away from the real culprits. The problem primarily involves those who have had control of the money and their self-serving interests. You can't expect to find the right answers until you start asking the right questions. The right question is certainly not whether Barry Bonds is a jerk.
     
  4. Flying Headbutt

    Flying Headbutt Moderator Staff Member

    What is the right question then?
     
  5. creamora

    creamora Member

    Flying Headbutt,

    I find it interesting that someone who is repeatedly attacked here as having no credibility is even being asked about the right questions. Ironically, I've got some ideas regarding what the right questions and possible answers are in terms of helping to clean up the use of drugs in baseball. However, it seems that no matter what I present here there is an all out attack in response. It also seems that most here are of the opinion that they already have the answer to the very complex problem involving drug use in baseball. Simply ban Barry Bonds and baseball's problems will go away. That's gotta be it, right? Let me think about what a few of the right questions are for a bit and I'll get back to you.
     
  6. Damn, after 202 posts about this, I figured creamora would have the questions ready to go.
     
  7. creamora

    creamora Member

    friend of a friend,

    I'm trying to figure out whether the questions should go down your throat or up your ass. Do you have a preference? I must admit that it is a difficult decision.
     
  8. Bubbler

    Bubbler Well-Known Member

    Settle down. We're all trying to be cool with each other now.
     
  9. creamora

    creamora Member

    Below is a little something to chew on for a few minutes.

    Feds may boost Mitchell's steroids investigation
    Government could provide evidence from case against ex-Mets employee

    By Amy Shipley
    Washington Post
    May 3, 2007

    Former senator George Mitchell and the other members of the group investigating steroid use in baseball are expected to get more than the forced cooperation of a steroid dealer who last week admitted to distributing performance-enhancing drugs to dozens of Major League Baseball players.

    Federal investigators say they also are willing to provide Mitchell's group with evidence used to build a case against former New York Mets batboy Kirk Radomski, who last Friday admitted in a plea agreement that he operated a ring that distributed steroids and other performance-enhancing drugs to professional baseball players.

    Assistant U.S. Attorney Matt Parrella said federal investigators would sift through the evidence to determine what they legally are able to provide to Mitchell and his associates. "Are documents, etcetera, going to be turned over?" Parrella said. "That's part of the concept, but I can't lay out a schedule or roster of documents. We will make an evaluation item by item."

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18480533/
     
  10. Herbert Anchovy

    Herbert Anchovy Active Member

  11. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    shot, I was directing that at creamora, not you. My point was you can't say the case against Bonds is flimsy, then make a huge deal out of the word of one clubhouse guy trying to get out of jail time by pointing the finger everywhere but at himself.

    I was not defending the evidence against Bonds.

    And creamora, you get attacked because of the bullshit you pull. You just rant on and on and toss out wild accusations without bothering to read what anybody else here posts. And when somebody called your bluff and asked what the right questions were, you had nothing but excuses to offer.
     
  12. alleyallen

    alleyallen Guest

    Not to weigh in on the steroid debate, but I'm not entirely sure baseball "HAS" to do anything, despite what one writer might say. To me, baseball has every right to attempt to distance itself from Bonds, without kicking him out of the game. Steroids aside, he's just not that great a guy and on personality alone, he's not exactly the kind of man I'd want to push forward as the ideal baseball player.
     
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