BCS leagues expanding - yeah?

Just saying the only reason Iowa State would make as much sense as anyone for the Big Ten is a natural partner with current member Iowa. No effin way Iowa State gets a bid to Big Ten, maybe the Missouri Valley.


I'm sure if the Pac-10 had its way, and maybe it will, it would include only Texas and Oklahoma or maybe Texas and Texas A&M. The other Texas schools, Okie State and Colorado don't do as much for the Pac-10.

But in that Pac-12 scenario how do you divide six of one and half a dozen of the other?

LA schools with Arizona schools and Texas/Oklahoma or Texas A&M.

Then Bay Area, Oregon and Washington.

No way the current Pac-10 goes for that scenario - NW schools don't want to lose that LA connection and I doubt USC and UCLA would want to be in the same division as Texas and Oklahoma.

That's why a Pac-16 makes sense. You keep the original Pac-8, which have built in natural rivalries and the Arizona schools get to join the Big 12. Arizona and Arizona State will get "screwed" before Stanford, Cal, Washington or Oregon.

Even a Pac-10 expansion of BYU and Utah don't jibe with splitting the league into two divisions. They also don't have nearly the cache of a Texas, Oklahoma or A&M or even Colorado.

 

Here's an interesting read on the Colorado-Baylor debate:

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_15245584

 

You mean like they did when the SWC imploded? Get bent, Ken. TCU or Houston woulda been a better choice for the Fat XII than your punk-assed school with its killer basketball program.

 

Aspects of the Whitewater witch hunt made more sense than that self-serving screed.

Get bent indeed.

 

Spoken like someone who has no grasp of the SWC circa the early 90s.

TCU had the worst overall athletic program in SWC and had been on probation in the late 80s. Facilities were woefully behind the times even then and they are still trying to catch up. Even today it still can't sell out its football stadium.

Houston's football program was on a downward slide started by John Jenkins and its basketball program had just begun a run of non-NCAA tournament years that didn't end til this past March. UH had also been on probation in the late 80s and was an inner city commuter school.

Baylor, at the time, had a much better football program than either UH or TCU and a clean NCAA rap sheet in football. It also had the governor, a boatload of legislators and an influential football coach/athletic director on its side.

So yeah, at the time, if a gun was held to the heads of the CEOs of the other Big 12 schools and they were told to pick either UH, TCU or Baylor, they would have picked Baylor.

 

Pretty good stuff here from The New York Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/08/sports/ncaafootball/08colleges.html?ref=ncaafootball

Irish better get to gettin'. Maybe we can get BP to help the Big Ten cap its expansion.

 

Even if the Big East breaks up as a football league it would still be a viable hoops league and would still given ND a home for its non-rev sports.

 

The Big Ten is not, repeat NOT, going to agree to any preconditions whatsoever for ND to join.

ND has had several chances to join in the past under fantastically accommodating conditions, and told the Big Ten to go pound pud.

The hammer is in the other hand now. The revenues from the Big Ten network dwarf ND's NBC contract, which could take a big hit if the parent network starts farming games out to VERSUS.

In the 1990s, the Big Ten NEEDED ND to make a conference championship football game possible. If the Big Ten really really wants a conference title game, they can pick up the phone and call any one of about a dozen schools, any one of which would accept instantly.

ND can either get on the bus, or get thrown under it.

 

Why won't the big east get rid of this stupid basketball conference, get ND to join and maybe poach a couple of other teams to remain viable. Unlike the B-10, the BE will fall all over itself to get ND to join, let it keep its NBC contract and the like. I find it hard to believe the BE and ACC are just layin' back in the cut with all the talk about other leagues' potentially poaching their members.

 

Yeah, they looked at the Disciples of Christ (TCU's religious base) and them Baptists said, "They're hellbound anyway. Forget 'em."

 

Notre Dame has no interest whatsoever in joining the Big East for football, now or ever. The BE has made it clear for many many years they would do anything and everything ND could possibly desire to get them to join in football -- allow them to keep the entire TV contract, basically allow ND to write the league's entire football schedule, give them virtually unlimited bowl preferences, etc etc etc.

ND's response has been a stifled chuckle. If they ever end up joining a conference in football, it will not be the Big East. (If the BE had kept Miami and BC, it might be a different story, and if they had gotten PSU in the fold, it REALLY might have been a different story, but all that's 10 and close to 20 years in the past now).

The Big East's relationship to ND football has basically been the equivalent of a Tony Soprano mistress. You're kept around to get fucked once a week and basically that's it, and he's never going home with you.

 

That's awesome Starman. Gloria Trillos for everyone. Just please, please don't tell me Jim Delany is Dr. Jennifer Melfi (Lorraine Bracco)