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BCS leagues expanding - yeah?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Apr 19, 2010.

  1. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    I don't see them going anywhere.

    Nobody is gong to pay the ridiculous buyout amounts that are on the table now and the SEC has zero need to expand.
     
  2. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    If it goes the way of 16-team super-conferences, then whether or not a conference already has a presence in a given state really goes out the window. With the new exit fees, neither FSU nor Clemson is going anywhere (I've long said that Clemson wasn't going anywhere). Nevertheless, those schools represent good fits with the SEC should the SEC find it imperative to get to 16. You can bet your sweet bippy that if Texas came a-calling the SEC'd jump, Aggies or no.
     
  3. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    We aren't going to see four 16-team superconferences any time soon.
     
  4. dog eat dog world

    dog eat dog world New Member

     
  5. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    Boise State is completely useless to the Big 12 or any other major conference. They don't bring enough to the table to be worth the invitation.
     
  6. dog eat dog world

    dog eat dog world New Member

    I'm talking strictly football competitiveness, Armchair. They'd be worth more than a Houston.
     
  7. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    Which is irrelevant because the Big 12 will never take UH either.
     
  8. dog eat dog world

    dog eat dog world New Member

    Remember I said there would never be a 16-team Big 12 because Boise State, even if deemed acceptable, can't morph into five more members. They're stuck and if Notre Dame ever does go football with the ACC, then the Big 12 slips another notch.
     
  9. Oz

    Oz Well-Known Member

    Only if Texas wants to lose more than $20 million annually for 13 years in Tier 1 and 2 money from the Big 12. The 10-team lineup signed a 13-year grant of rights when they agreed to the new TV contract last week, so realistically, no one's leaving the conference until 2025.

    EDIT -- I still think Louisville finds its way into the Big 12 in the next two or three years. Just no clear answer as to what 12th team would make sense. If Florida State wanted to jump (with a $20 million exit fee as opposed to $50 million), sure. Notre Dame all sports, sure. Without one of those two, not sure how it would be.
     
  10. linotype

    linotype Well-Known Member

    It'll be hilarious when Notre Dame tries to do to the ACC what it did to the Big East when the Irish and that league had a scheduling arrangement. I believe ND said it would play 3 Big East teams a year -- and then ND began to flex its muscles and said it would only play Rutgers at the Meadowlands and not on campus, or UConn at the Patriots' stadium instead of Rentschler Field.

    You don't think Clemson wouldn't lose its mind if ND said it would only play the Tigers in Charlotte and never in Death Valley? Or Florida State only in Jacksonville? Or Duke/Wake/UNC/NC State only in Charlotte? Or Maryland only in the Ravens' Stadium? Or Va Tech only in DC?

    I guarantee ND will make those sorts of demands rather quickly.
     
  11. JosephC.Myers

    JosephC.Myers Active Member

    ND may do it, but I bet the ACC would call their bluff and unite on it. I hate when schools do the flexing muscles crap.
     
  12. McNuggetsMan

    McNuggetsMan Active Member

    ND tended to make those demands when schools play in stadiums with small capacity. ND wants to play in big stadium and have the chance for its fans to purchase tickets. Rutgers and UConn play in tiny stadiums and there wasn't an agreement that ND would play every big east team -- only that there would be a offer. UConn and Rutgers didn't want to move the game.

    ACC agreement is different. ND has to evenly rotate through all 14 schools alternating home/away. The problem with tiny stadiums is less of a problem in the ACC and Notre Dame has shown more willingness to play in smaller stadiums recently (at Wake last year). With just your examples cited above -- played at FSU in 2002 (or maybe 03), played at UNC in 2008 (or maybe 09), played at Wake last year. With other ACC schools, they've played at Gtech in 2002, at BC, at Pitt, at Syracuse (next few games with Syracuse are at Meadowlands).

    I see no reason why they wouldn't play at Clemson, at VaTech, at NC State and at Maryland. Duke is probably the only school that might be better off moving the game to Charlotte to sell more tickets.
     
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