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Ben Carson: Bungling Surgeon

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by YankeeFan, Oct 7, 2015.

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  1. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    There Is No ‘Blue Wall’
     
  2. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    I guess we'll find out, but I think nominating someone the other side hates more than you love is a bad idea in a world where turnout is everything. Nothing motivates Republican voters like fear, and Clinton makes one hell of a bogeywoman.
     
  3. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    It's actually pretty startling how bereft of fresh faces that party is. Her "inevitability" has basically caused the party to stagnate as far as developing talent. Say what you will about the GOP field, at least people know who the hell these guys are.
     
  4. JayFarrar

    JayFarrar Well-Known Member

    There's a good opinion piece from the ny times about how the democrats have basically skipped a generation.

    People my age, I'm 45, are basically invisible while it is people in their 60s and older and people in their 20s and 30s who are doing all the hard work with the progressive movement.

    At the local level, at least in my parts, that's terribly true. There's a huge generational hole about to hit democrats. Well, you are already starting to see it.

    Pretty remarkable actually.
     
  5. BDC99

    BDC99 Well-Known Member

    This sounds about right. I think Rubio has a decent chance, and I think Jeb still will make a push. I still believe it will come down to those two.
     
  6. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    With the Democrats having lost 900 state legislature seats over the course of the Obama Era, they don't appear to have much of a bench for the future, either.
     
  7. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    I have seen no indication at any level that Jeb Bush will be a factor in this race.
     
  8. BDC99

    BDC99 Well-Known Member

    He improved a bit in the last debate. I just think when things get serious he will be seen as a more viable candidate. I could be very wrong.
     
  9. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Far and away, Clinton remains the candidate Democratic primary voters think has the best chance of winning a general election - 76 percent say she does.

    But which Republican presidential candidate would be the most challenging for the Democratic nominee? At this point, Democratic primary voters say it's Donald Trump: 31 percent say he would be the most difficult Republican for a Democratic nominee to beat. Ben Carson (15 percent) is a distant second, followed by Marco Rubio (13 percent) and Jeb Bush (13 percent).

    Both Clinton and Sanders supporters view Trump as the Republican that poses the most difficult challenge.


    Poll: Hillary Clinton bests Sanders as the Democrats' "change" candidate
     
  10. The Big Ragu

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  11. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    The Dem bench was wiped out under Obama. Dems have lost Senators, members of Congress, Governors, state legislators, and other state wide office holders, which all form the stepping stones of a political career.

    But, Mark Schmitt puts the blame on Bill Clinton.

    Why? Because he wasn't liberal enough, of course:

    Our generation — the triangulation generation — devised anti-crime policies and welfare reform, got nervous at the mere mention of same-sex marriage, was taught that government should work through market mechanisms, rather than act as a countervailing force, and learned to govern through inoffensive gestures like tax credits.

    The Democratic Party, as an institution, had little meaning for this generation. It was not ideologically coherent — extremely conservative Southerners were still Democrats well into the Clinton years — and the party’s operatives did little to make it meaningful to young people. The idea that by the mid-2000s, young people would identify as “Fighting Dems” and embrace Mr. Dean’s “50-state strategy” to expand the party would seem really surprising to us in the 1990s.

    ...
    Mark Schmitt is director of the political reform program at New America, an independent think tank in Washington.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/12/o...generation-of-democrats.html?ref=opinion&_r=0
     
  12. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    The ONLY thing Jeb! has going for him is money. He's an absolute dud in just about every other way.
     
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