Best QB In NFL History!!!

I liked Steve Taneyhill.

 

Don't you dare forget about Stoney freaking Case!

According to Wikipedia:

Case was notorious in Detroit for perhaps indirectly causing a chain reaction of events that led to the Matt Millen era as Detroit's general manager. During the last game of the season against the Chicago Bears, Case again was filling in for an injured Charlie Batch. With Detroit losing 13-10 at the start of the 4th quarter, Case scampered 13 yards for a touchdown and the Lions went up 17-13. However, Case then threw an interception that was returned 61 yards for a touchdown by R.W. McQuarters, and the Bears went up 20-17, before a Jason Hanson Lions field goal tied the game at 20-20. With possession of the ball and moving into field goal range late in the game, Case threw a pass that was dropped by wide receiver Herman Moore on a crucial third down, forcing the Lions to punt. Chicago was only able to drive to the Lions 37-yard line with 2 seconds remaining on the clock, and on the cusp of field goal range. However, that proved to be close enough as rookie kicker Paul Edinger kicked a 54 yard field goal, giving the Bears an impropable road win. The Lions suffered the loss and their season was over with a 9-7 record. The Detroit media and fans roundly placed blame on Case and Moore, whether it was just or not. Had the Lions won the game, the team would have earned a playoff berth for the second season in a row. As a result, owner William Clay Ford immediately reshuffled the front office, resulting in the hiring of general manager and president Matt Millen, the firing of head coach Gary Moeller, and the departure of Herman Moore, Jeff Hartings, and Case.

So don't hate on Millen, hate on Stoney Case!

 

Thats bad.

 

There is a huge difference between Montana and Bradshaw. Bradshaw only really had a few years as a standout passer and some truly awful ones as well. He also had two Hall of Fame receivers for all four Super Bowls, though Swann didn't catch a pass in the first one.

Montana didn't just win four rings, he did it in an offense that revolved around him the whole time. He never had a great receiver until Jerry Rice's second season, 1986. He had some good ones that he made look great.

And Manning is a system quarterback as well. And I'd take Marvin Harrison over any receiver Montana played with not named Rice. Manning has better weapons around him now than Montana had for the first half of his career, and that has been the case since Reggie Wayne emerged as a big-time threat.

Marino also benefitted from his system, with tremendous receivers and a line that excelled at pass blocking much of his career.

That's the problem with the system quarterback argument. You start getting into even more subjective areas.

I can see arguments for guys other than Montana as No. 1, but not in the top 5? Well, we will simply have to agree to disagree there.

 

Here are some things that, to me, make Montana the greatest ever:

1. Zero interceptions in four Super Bowls. Zero. Not even the great Tom Brady has pulled that off.

2. Twice, Montana was injured and many believed he would never play again. The first comeback ended with two brilliant seasons and Super Bowl wins.

3. After missing all but one half in two seasons, Montana came to Kansas City and promptly led the Chiefs to a division title and a spot in the AFC Championship game. Along the way, he led the Chiefs to a comeback win over Pittsburgh in the playoffs, proving he still had the magic.

4. The 1994 Mile High Miracle. A 38-year-old fart outdueld John Elway, who still had several good years left. The last touchdown drive was a thing of beauty.

5. Despite missing all that time with injuries, Montana is still in the top 10 all time in touchdown passes, passing yards and rating. And despite playing 15 seasons, Montana is nowhere near the top 25 for career interceptions. And yet, he threw more than 5,300 passes.

6. It didn't matter who Montana had on his team. He won. He proved it early in his career and late in his career. He made everyone around him better.

7. Montana played in the superior conference until he went to Kansas City. His 49ers had to deal with great teams from Chicago, Washington and New York to make the Super Bowl. Heck, even the Los Angeles Rams were pretty damn good for a few years.

8. Four Super Bowls, four wins, three MVPs and his signature game - The Drive. He was brilliant when it mattered the most.

All that adds up to being the greatest.

 

Like I said many times before he is the greatest off all-time but when it's all set and done Manning will be the next best thing since Montana, and he will have at least one more Super Bowl ring if not 2-3.

 

A teacher of mine told me 20 years ago to hit that joint.

Man, I'm sad.

 

So you're basically saying . . .

If Montana had been the Dolphins' quarterback, and Marino had been the 49ers' quarterback, the Dolphins would have won all those Super Bowls because Montana "made everyone around him better."

Is that what you're really saying?

 

Oh, for fuck's sake. Hypotheticals, in almost every instance, are pure bullshit. Montana won four Super Bowls, putting up all-time great numbers in the process. He succeeded on every team, from Notre Dame, to the 49ers, to the Chiefs. I could buy the argument that he's not the best of all-time, but to omit him from the top 5 simply because of the "system" in which he succeeded is ridiculous.

But I should expect as much from the board's resident Peyton Manning apologist. Like most UT fans, you believe Jesus H. Manning can do no wrong.

Super Bowl wins: Manning 1, McMahon 1, Dilfer 1, Brady 3, Montana 4.
National championships: Manning 0, Tee Martin 1.

 

Yes I think thats whats he is saying.

 

So what you are saying is that as off right now he is not the best off all-time.

 

Yes, as of right now, Manning is NOT the best of all-time.