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Beware, Trentonian offering jobs that don't exist

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Interim Bedwetter, Jan 23, 2007.

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  1. Tom Petty

    Tom Petty Guest

    they're just artificial at his shop dude. obviously your place pays closer attention to deadlines much like mine.
     
  2. Angola!

    Angola! Guest

    Apparently.
    I just thought it was ridiculous of the poster above to make it seem like missing deadline was not only OK, but also laudable.
     
  3. aeroking

    aeroking Member

    If it's possible for him to blow deadline by 2 hours, doesn't that indicate that deadline isn't quite as vital as we've been led to believe. Trust me, I personally treat deadline like a do-or-die. But let's be real. If he misses deadline by 2 hours (when most of us would consider missing by 15 minutes to be a big deal) isn't it obviously not a legitimate concern? If missing by that much truly crippled the business, then wouldn't he be gone after the first time it happened? Something doesn't add up. Either the upper management has told him they'd compensate, or the deadlines are artificial. Hard to think if 20 percent of the papers were returned, someone would be canned, given that losing thousands of dollars in revenue would be more important that failing to add up a box score, which we know is a firable offense.
     
  4. Angola!

    Angola! Guest

    OK, I think either someone is lying about the 2 hours thing or he doesn't get in trouble and the deskers are going to take the hammer. Maybe he has been told it is out of his control because he is off early and his staff will take the heat.
    I don't know, but something doesn't add up. I've never heard of a paper that allows you to miss deadline by 2 hours like it is no big deal.
     
  5. Tom Petty

    Tom Petty Guest

    you're talking about a guy who's been brought in to take care of biz. what that biz is, i don't know. but, obviously, the guy won't be allowed to miss deadline by two hours for a year, nor three months, if you want a guess from me, which would make the deadline nonartificial, just less important than the task the man has in hand.
     
  6. aeroking

    aeroking Member

    Laudable? No way. Missing deadline fucks up the entire operation. But that's an internal issue, one that is very difficult for a reader to detect, unless deadline is blown by so much the paper didn't get out. So obviously an editor can't miss deadline by that much without management's blessing. No one bitches when we have MNF and circulation and the print dept. makes special arrangements because we're sending two hours after "deadline."
     
  7. Tom Petty

    Tom Petty Guest

    what's your point dog?
     
  8. Angola!

    Angola! Guest

    OK, I can agree with that.
    But I have always been in the situation where you fix things, but you better not miss deadline. Not by 1 minute, not by 2 hours. I just can't believe that it is not a bigger deal, because missing deadline is more than just missing deadline, it also costs the paper money. Generally, it causes people in the back to get overtime and it makes the carriers late and it makes the papers late.
    I just can't figure out how it doesn't matter.
     
  9. aeroking

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    Ha, I guess i forgot that I was actually trying to make a point, which is that all the petty sniping is crap. I'm waiting for all (or one) of the detractors to step up and answer the questions I asked earlier, which is how you actually print a better sports section for the newspaper readers of Trenton. I'm not buying that "making deadline" is the No. 1 objective. Producing a better product is. The question is, How?
    And if it seems I'm saying "deadline doesn't matter" I'm not. I'm saying that it can't be the answer for how you produce a more compelling and interesting sports section. Which none of the detractors has been able to offer.

    The funny thing is I have nothing invested in this, other than fairness. It chaps my ass to see a guy hung out to dry because a bunch of alums who have obviously moved on to bigger and better things still get their rocks off by blasting a paper and the people who have the balls to try to turn it around. If anything, they should support it. The better the paper is, the better it looks on their resume. Guess it's the "good ol' days" scenario. No way it could ever be "as good as when I was there." Which is a joke in its own right.
     
  10. Tom Petty

    Tom Petty Guest

    gola - just imagine some of the strategy that's cooked up in back rooms. i don't see missing deadline every night a stretch if they are attempting to accomplish a larger goal.
     
  11. Angola!

    Angola! Guest

    OK, fair enough. I will just go back to reading this thread.
    I just posted because you seemed to be dismissing deadline rather easily and in some ways still are. I don't care how good the product is, you can't miss deadline by 2 hours. Making deadline is part of a good product, whether the readers know you made it or not. It is part of your job to make deadline.
     
  12. aeroking

    aeroking Member

    Couldn't agree more. Thanks for pointing out I was completely getting off track. Hell, it's after 3 a.m. I'm half asleep.
     
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