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Big Tobacco to smokers: Bend over

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by outofplace, Mar 30, 2009.

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  1. zagoshe

    zagoshe Well-Known Member

    Your posts are wordy because you never have a real argument and hope that if you keep slinging enough shit and enough cutsey phrases and throw in a few numbers, nobody will realize that you have no idea what you are talking about.

    On just about every subject, except perhaps the history of the Steelers.

    And now we are into degrees of addiction -- as if we really want to go down that slippery slope....I'd also ask you to talk so someone about their alcohol addiction or their prescription drug addiction and explain to me how that is better (or worse) than a smoking addiction.
     
  2. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    Actually, the fast food industry targets kids as much, if not more so, than the cigarette companies.

    Otherwise, though, OOP, spot on.
     
  3. Actually, I meant what I said.
    As to your being a fool today, well, there's a reason self-evident is in the dictionary.
     
  4. zagoshe

    zagoshe Well-Known Member

    Again, you can continue to say "you are being a fool" if it makes you feel better - it doesn't change the fact that you have no real argument.
     
  5. I don't have to have an argument if yours begins with the premise that "activist judges" are the reason why the tobacco industry has come under the fire that it has.
    You know why?
    Because only a fool would make that argument.
     
  6. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Thanks Zeke, but it is different. The tobacco industry has to get most of its customers addicted when they aren't even legally allowed to buy cigarettes. If they had to rely on getting people to try their first cigarette when they were 18 or older, they would go out of business.
     
  7. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Says the guy relies on hurling insults to bolster his politically-biased assertions.

    It isn't just the degree of addiction, but you keep ignoring that part because it pokes a hole in your failure of an argument.

    Short enough for you? Or was even that too much of a strain for you to read.
     
  8. And let's not forget lying your asses off in front of Congress.

    [​IMG]
     
  9. zagoshe

    zagoshe Well-Known Member

    And you could say the same thing about McDonald's, which is a big reason they won the war with Burger King.

    And you could say the same thing about alcohol -- which is the fucking entire reason things like wine coolers came to be.

    But I guess that can't be right because, well, it doesn't feed into the hysteria about tobacco and it doesn't allow for the kind of silly knee-jerk reactionism which allows our government to shred the constitution and do whatever the hell it pleases to the tobacco industry.......

    Jesus, you can't be this dumb. Despite your repeated attempts to prove otherwise, I can't believe you are this dumb.

    Stubborn and unwilling to ever admit you are wrong, perhaps.

    But is impossible for a walking and breathing human being to be this dumb.
     
  10. always good to see zag making friends.
     
  11. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Let me start with a request to the mods. Please don't lock this thread just because Zag can't post without insulting people. I'm the one he's taking shots at and I don't care what he says about me. I know just how meaningless his little digs are. He likes starting fights to get threads locked. Please don't give him what he is asking for here.

    Let's try this one more time. It is not illegal for people under the age of 18 to buy junk food. It is illegal for anybody under 18 to buy cigarettes. There's one distinction you keep trying to glaze over in service of your failed argument.

    While we're at it, please show your work regarding the history of the wine cooler. Sounds like you know a good bit about them. Favorite drink of yours?

    Fast food is not chemically addictive. If you can't grasp the difference between that and what nicotene does to a human being, I can't help you.

    Shred the constitution? Sounds like somebody's getting emotional, perhaps to the point of knee-jerk reactionism, and it sure ain't me. My side is winning this argument. The new taxes exist. I'm happy about it. Despite your protests, no laws have been broken and people are going to smoke less. That is a very good thing.

    Have a nice day.
     
  12. zagoshe

    zagoshe Well-Known Member

    This is hilarious, in a "I'm going to take my ball and go home because you aren't playing by rules and you made too many good points for me to try and refute..." kind of way. And the pleas to the mods about locking a thread -- as if I am insulting anyone.

    If anything, you are insulting all of our intelligence with your continued ridiculous attempts to get around the facts that the alcohol and fast food and junk food industries are all marketed the same way cigarettes were to young people and all are equally as bad for your health and in the case of alcohol and/or caffeine, just as much of a danger to become an addiction.

    You have now posted about ten times, the same over the top knee jerk whining about how evil smoking is -- and the only reason is because you simply can't or won't accept the fact that you are wrong.
     
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