Big Tobacco to smokers: Bend over

No, I just am not going to let you or anyone else get away with hypocrisy. You can't have it both ways and I always will call you out when you try.

If you can't handle that, I can't help you with that but you can't only hold the other side's feet to the fire in terms of promises and not your own side.

It doesn't work that way.

 

It is different. Smoking isn't something lower and middle class families "need" to survive. It's not a part of everyone's everyday life. If anything, if this tax increase can cause even 100 people to quit, it's done something good. Plus, if the tax money helps contribute to the cost of medical care of the people with lung cancer that have no insurance, then it's helping even more.

 

Damn laws. Just toss 'em all out. The fact that tobacco companies have been working around the law to addict people who are too young to know any better just doesn't matter in Zag world.

Interesting that you bring up what politicians will and will not do. The ONLY reason smoking is still legal in this country is the money behind the people protecting the tobacco industry. If tobacco were found for the first time today and the FDA knew all of its harmful effects, it would never make it onto the market.

And guys, please don't ask for a lock. Just use the function that shall not be named if you can't tolerate Zag's garbage. He gets away with picking fights to get threads locked too often. Let's try not to let him do it again.

 

take a deep breath, chief. you're beginning to make no sense at all.

 

So, this is not hypocrisy or having it both ways? Saying you want strings attached, but then criticizing "The Messiah" for the same? If I'm reading it wrong, please explain. Or better yet, don't.

 

OK.

First off -- Let's go look at the last 30 threads which were locked -- I challenge you -- and tell me how many I am directly responsible for -- or was even a part of - the reason said thread got locked.

Actually -- scratch that -- I just went back 30 pages on this board and 20 on the politics board (which has a ridiculous number of locked threads by the way) -- that's 50 pages and roughly 60 locked threads -- I was involved in two of them. TWO out of roughly 50. Yeah, it is me who tries to get into arguments and gets threads locked....... :

So this "he's going to get it locked" routine is just another attempt by you to say "please lock this thread because he's kicking my teeth in again and I am so immature and insecure I have to always get the last work in and make sure people think I am smart and at least if I keep begging for it to get locked and it does get locked, well I can save face and walk away without needing to get the last word....."

Seriously -- go count the locked threads and get back to me. There was about ten in one day on the politics board - -see how many I was a part of then get back to me.

Second -- all of your gibberish is the same gibberish you've been trying to sell all day and it still doesn't refute the things you cannot refute....

1.) Junk foods, alcohol and caffeine are all very destructive to our health yet isn't it funny that politicians aren't out starting hysteria campaigns about them?
2.) Alcohol and caffeine are addicting and dangerous - yet somehow not the bogeyman tobacco is.
3.) The only reason tobacco has become the Bogeyman is more Americans don't smoke than do......but it is very alarming that Americans are so quick to allow the government to intervene in one industry and not the other -- and it is based almost entirely in false emotions and hysteria perpetrated by liberal wackos and knee jerkers.
4.) Alcohol has been and is still in many ways marketed to young people in hopes of getting them hooked early, the same way tobacco is. But I wonder if a tax on Alcohol that made a bottle of Budweiser, oh I don't know, 20 bucks -- is something people would stand by and let happen - lest we forget the prohibition era.

Again, you are wrong. Tobacco has become a Bogeyman because of emotions and the way that industry has been treated by our government is a good first step down the slippery slope to where the government can tax and regulate any industry it deems politically incorrect out of existence.

 

the first four graphs remind me of something yawn would write.

 

No it is not, not at all and I WILL explain.

I said -- we need to stop giving free health care to drug addicts and illegal aliens.

That led to a whole bunch of whining and crying about how inhuman it was and how we will have bunches and bunches of dead bodies.

So I said, well, if you must have a big government program -- why stop halfway - why not make sure it is a HUGE government program -- since hey, it is Christmas in April and Obama's handing out checks!!!

 

bootstraps.

 

You do realize you supported Obama over McCain, right?

 

Yes, I did, and I did so because I hoped he would actually change the culture and politics in Washington -- instead we got another run of the mill big government politician - which is what we definitely would have had with McCain.

Obama reprsented, to me, an outsider who really wanted to change our political system and for the better. Unfortunately, he's shown his true colors and basically they are going to be very expensive for all of us.

That makes him no better or worse than just about every president we've had in the last 100 years or so.

 

need a smoke, chief?