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Bill Conlin on the business

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Moderator1, Dec 9, 2008.

  1. Just an FYI, I would never not cover something (not that I'm in a position to make that decision) because I don't like something personally. And I would never write one of those, "Boy, do I hate soccer!" columns. Lame.

    But I think MMA sucks. Guys hugging each other.

    But it's not because I'm a sports writer. And my friends who are huge sports fans also hate some sports and love others. Why should we be so much different?

    Besides, I think the point was that sports writers hate the sport and people they actually cover. Which I don't think is true.
     
  2. Piotr Rasputin

    Piotr Rasputin New Member

    True.

    I just can't resist a chance to bash those who bash soccer gratuitously.
     
  3. Herbert Anchovy

    Herbert Anchovy Active Member

    How old is this chippy designer? And you say he has no entrenched experience. Now it all makes sense.
     
  4. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    But it'd be OK to run me off, or Piotr off, or buckweaver off, or 21 off? Sorry, one shouldn't get special treatment because they post under their notable name. If Whitlock had done his board sexual harassment under a handle, he would have been whacked at a COCKDIAN! level. Not that Dave Kindred or other big names who post as themselves and post in a reasoned way shouldn't be respected. But they sure can be vigorously disagreed with without fear that someone will go home if they're disagreed with. And I'm not saying Dave has problems being disagreed with; I sense he doesn't. I sense others had problems with people disagreeing with him; that's the issue that vexes me.
     
  5. 21

    21 Well-Known Member

    Somehow, I think Dave can handle disagreement on an anonymous message board.

    But by all means, let's insist that folks like Kindred and Vaccaro don't know their asses from windmills.

    You don't have to agree with someone just on the merit of his or her name, but when you're talking about creating success in a profession where very few succeed, it's not the worst thing to actually listen to people who have achieved it.
     
  6. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    And agree, disagree, ask for amplification, or if it merits it (and I stress that I don't think it does in this case), tell them they don't know their asses from windmills. As if they had a handle. I'm sure most of us know just as big of names that use handles. The key is what's in the middle part of the page, not what's over on the left.

    Again, no problem with Kindred (I actually agree with much of what he said), but with those who don't think he, or any big name, should ever be challenged. There are plenty of folks with handles who have had succeeded
     
  7. Joe Williams

    Joe Williams Well-Known Member

    Very few succeed? Must not want it more than the next guy.
     
  8. VJ

    VJ Member

    He went to Kent State. Pretty sure that's not Ivy.
     
  9. Fredrick

    Fredrick Well-Known Member

    Hating MMA and soccer is not what we should be talking about. Those "sports" are a.) a joke. and b.) horrifically boring.
     
  10. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Parkour was featured somewhat in the movie "Breaking and Entering," which is a top-shelf movie with Jude Law and Juliette Binoche. I have a business idea for parkour if I could ever find the business minds. I think parkour is pretty fucking cool.
     
  11. Smasher_Sloan

    Smasher_Sloan Active Member


    That's what makes it so disappointing that the wisdom offered is "work hard," "want it" and the lyrics to "The Impossible Dream."
     
  12. Drip

    Drip Active Member

    No one said that life was fair Smasher. I believe that if you work hard enough and are good, things have a way of working out in most instances.
     
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