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Bill Simmons out at ESPN?

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by MiamiACC, Feb 23, 2007.

  1. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member

    Reader feedback? Bob Greene made it a career, in the late going, before he got slapped upside the haid.
     
  2. fmrsped

    fmrsped Active Member

    I'll preface this by saying I can see both sides of the Simmons argument. I still enjoy reading him, though.

    But that "column" to which you are referring is a part of his basketball blog, not a regular column. So to chastise him over running two reader responses in that space is a little ridiculous.
     
  3. murphy37

    murphy37 New Member


    So what?

    Every single thing on TV is "empty dreck" to somebody - including sports. I don't watch American Idol, but I also don't think the people that do are stupid.

    I do read Bill Simmons, and I thoroughly enjoy reading his work. Of course he's not a real journalist, but I don't remember him saying otherwise. I'm not trying to nominate him for a Pulitzer Prize, and I'm not saying he's the greatest writer in the world. I just find what he writes entertaining. That's all.

    Of course popularity doesn't equal quality, and that wasn't my point. All I was saying was that it's become awfully trendy for people to bash things that are popular, and since Bill Simmons is one of the most popular writers around, it's in vogue to trash him. Criticisms of him are, of course, valid, but what difference does it make? If you don't like him, great, but it seems that some people just dislike him because it's the cool thing to do. And that's what's pathetic.
     
  4. alleyallen

    alleyallen Guest

    Never claimed people who like American Idol are stupid. Nor did I claim the same for Bill Simmons. Like I said earlier, I liked Simmons at one point, but now, not at all. Still, the dreck analogy stands.
     
  5. murphy37

    murphy37 New Member

    American Idol isn't "dreck" to everyone. To some people it's the best show on TV. So while your analogy stands from your point of view, it doesn't apply to everyone.
     
  6. alleyallen

    alleyallen Guest

    You're going to find that if you spend a lot of time criticizing every single person for their opinion, you'll never get much done here. ;D

    And I still call Idol dreck regardless of who likes it. I just don't go on the Idol threads and say it because there's no point in it. I don't have to watch it, therefore I don't. But I do smirk and roll my eyes when someone asks me if I do watch it.

    Also, I would fully expect someone to do the same when I tell them I love movies like Cannonball Run, Strange Brew and Pirate Movie. They're all drek, too.
     
  7. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    You take that back. TAKE IT BACK RIGHT NOW!!!
     
  8. Pirate Movie?
    Jesus wept.
     
  9. Herbert Anchovy

    Herbert Anchovy Active Member

    Prove the popularity
     
  10. murphy37

    murphy37 New Member

    Prove that he's not popular.

    (See, I can play that game too...)


    And AlleyAllen, anyone who says Cannonball Run is dreck is completely out of their mind. I think we can all agree on that, right?

    (By the way, I watch pro wrestling, so I can't really call what ANYONE watches dreck.)
     
  11. Herbert Anchovy

    Herbert Anchovy Active Member

    I've talked with young people about Simmons. They think he's a toolshed.
     
  12. murphy37

    murphy37 New Member

    Well, that settles it then.
     
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