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Bill Simmons smites Scoop about the head...

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by jason_whitlock, Feb 25, 2007.

  1. If Whitlock really wants this thread gone, he can do it himself.
     
  2. tapintoamerica

    tapintoamerica Well-Known Member

    At the risk of asking another oft-asked question, I'll proceed with this: Would this have made it onto the site as a regular Simmons column? Or did it ease its way into public consumption because it was part of a blog? Are there different standards of scrutiny applied to the two?
     
  3. And given the new thread title, it seems Whitlock wants this thread to continue.
     
  4. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Chee -JGM thinks he is a cross between EB White and Faulkner.
     
  5. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Hey chee do you carry a pocket knife?
     
  6. Big Chee

    Big Chee Active Member

    Understood.

    What direction is journalism going when writers are more interested in pissing contests?

    And how big headed is Bill to tell a black writer the subjects of the obvious hypocrisies and other things he should cover while he himself has access to the same pen and pad to write on those very things?

    Bill chooses not too, but tells Scoop, who i'm not a very big fan of, that "he" should and admonishes him by bringing up another black figurehead.

    What a clown.
     
  7. Angola!

    Angola! Guest

    I think Simmons' point was Scoop wants to think he is the next Ralph Wiley and Simmons was pointing out all the things wrong with Scoop's column. Simmons doesn't write on these issues. He could, but he never has in the past so why would he suddenly do so now?
    I don't see what the problem is with Simmons pointing out that Scoop wrote a terrible column.
     
  8. Big Chee

    Big Chee Active Member

    What's stopping Simmons from writing on "these issues", the very issues his own pair of eyes and ears are witness to, that he's throwing onto others to do?

    Simmons: "now THESE are the issues you're supposed to write about."

    Who is he to tell another writer to what to speak on while being quiet on those issues himself? Not only does he marginalize black writers to take on "those issues", he too does that to white writers who leave it to the Scoops and Whitnits of the world to write on. He's an able bodied man that could very well take the time to write on those issues.

    Well, I definitely know Simmons "concern" on those matters aren't a concern of his at all, and mockingly throwing it in the face of someone else to down them is downright tacky.
     
  9. Angola!

    Angola! Guest

    The way I read it was not that he was telling white writers they can't write on these topics or trying to marginalize black writers, to cut to the chase I think he was telling Scoop that his column really sucked and next time he should back up what he writes with facts.
    Also, he was pointing out that Scoop did a piss-poor job of coming up with quality comparisons to the All-Star Weekend, just like Whitlock did a bad job with the Black KKK thing.

    To sum it up: Maybe Simmons felt like someone with a platform better tell Scoop that he isn't Ralphy Wiley and he wrote a shitty column.
     
  10. 21

    21 Well-Known Member

    I can't believe we're talking about Scoop and Ralph Wiley on the same thread.
     
  11. sportschick

    sportschick Active Member

    It's just wrong somehow.
     
  12. Big Chee

    Big Chee Active Member

    Nothing is stopping Simmons from writing on the very things HE himself views as obvious biases and double standards. Is there a rule that says black writers are the only ones to call out what smells of racial bias?

    That's bs. Blacks are always told to call out our own who bear racial biases against others, but now someone like Simmons can't speak on the ones carried by his own. The biases he himself acknowledges and sees.

    Incredible.

    And using this "you're no Ralph Wiley" is the pattern of some white folks who use what they consider to be a "good black" person to down another.

    That's pure garbage.
     
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