'Black Wednesday' in Tampa

Grey · Jul 4, 2008

Moderator1 said:

Tampa will have a writer in Gainesville. Details being worked out.
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If that happens, shiite will SO hit the fan.

I still have pretty good connections there and this is the first I've "heard" of this.

Grey · Jul 4, 2008

Moderator1 said:

The plan they are working on involves someone else currently on staff - won't say the name until it gets worked out but it is not Scott.
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I'm getting furious just contemplating this. I'll check around.

Moderator1 · Jul 4, 2008

Yeah, the move thing is still being tossed around - but there will be a beat writer rather than college correspondents.
Joe, you mentioned adding a writer earlier. This is not an addition. It is a current staff member of long standing.

mediaguy · Jul 4, 2008

So why let Bellone get to 10 years, but not Carter? If I'm Scott, that's what I'm asking.

playthrough · Jul 4, 2008

Grey said:

Mizzougrad96 said:

Does anyone know if they at least gave him a decent severance package?

He was there 10 years I think. Two weeks pay per year is standard at a lot of places. He better have gotten that.
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Carter had been with Media General (he was originally at Hernando Today) for nine years, 11 months and 10 days. I have not spoken to him since he drove his crap back (mid-afternoon yesterday) but the difference -- if they did not give him the last 20 days or allow him to work it -- was 10 weeks severance vs. 20 weeks.

Bellone had been there nine years and four months and they allowed him to finish his eight months.

Carter was reimbursed for his mileage.

Oh, and Duke Moss told him in the layoff phone call on Wednesday to not worry about any assignments. I swear.
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Wow. Now that sounds suspicious to me. Would anyone put it past the suits to review lengths of service as far as milestones (i.e. close to 10 years, 20 years, etc., if those are the big jumps in severance) to help determine who gets the pink slip and who doesn't?

That makes me sick. Well, sicker than I already was about this.

EDIT: yeah, what mediaguy said. that's just awful.

Moderator1 · Jul 4, 2008

Who is Duke Moss?
Duke Maas is the ME there.

Baron Scicluna · Jul 4, 2008

Grey said:

Mizzougrad96 said:

Does anyone know if they at least gave him a decent severance package?

He was there 10 years I think. Two weeks pay per year is standard at a lot of places. He better have gotten that.
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Carter had been with Media General (he was originally at Hernando Today) for nine years, 11 months and 10 days. I have not spoken to him since he drove his crap back (mid-afternoon yesterday) but the difference -- if they did not give him the last 20 days or allow him to work it -- was 10 weeks severance vs. 20 weeks.

Bellone had been there nine years and four months and they allowed him to finish his eight months.

Carter was reimbursed for his mileage.

Oh, and Duke Moss told him in the layoff phone call on Wednesday to not worry about any assignments. I swear.
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Not knowing the details of the offer, but wouldn't the difference, at two weeks severance per nine years, be 18 weeks as opposed to 20 weeks, instead of 10 and 20?

RightorWrong · Jul 4, 2008

JBHawkEye said:

Wendell Barnhouse gives Jessica some advice on her blog:

WENDELL BARNHOUSE
I hope that Mindy McAdams takes note that I am posting under my real name. And I dearly hope that McAdams and others like her at Media General and the Tampa Tribune are soon on a street corner with signs reading Will Manage (Poorly) For Food.
To the lovely and talented Jessica DaSilva:
When I was intern age I certainly believed I knew everything about journalism and newspapers. Thank God I didnt have a blog on which to post. Some newsroom veteran would have killed me with a pica pole (Google to find out what that is).
Your enthusiastic blog should have taught you a few lessons:
1. Unlike your private diary/thoughts, what you blog or post on Al Gores invention is there for the world to see and read.
2. Writing on blogs need to be filtered. Think before you write. Read before you post. If you havent rewritten most of your post before its posted, youre headed for trouble.
3. Thats what editors do. They just dont change layed to laid. They ask questsions like, Is this what you mean to say? This is not clear; can you tell me what youre trying to say? Are you sure this is what you were aiming for?
Im a 36-year veteran of newspapers who recently left the business. It is dying if not already dead. Your editing hero is rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. And hyper local translates to hyper cheap. The Tampa Tribuines investigative group will wind up getting one good-sized story a year and a lot of nickel and dime gotcha stories that will do more harm than good.
One last interesting thing about the Internet. You find all sorts of things everywhere. You quoted your Editor Hero: We can see a better future for journalism right across the bridge on the other side, but the bridge is on fire, and if we just stand here, we are going to burn up with it.
A McClatchy veep in charge of news coverage used the same analogy and wording on his web site. Turns out your hero is a plagarist. Too bad she doesnt understand about attributing the source of her pithy analogy.

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That was damn impressive.

playthrough · Jul 4, 2008

Mizzougrad96 said:

They've asked two employees to move up to Gainesville... Both have refused.
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Shocking.

Someone will take that, but he/she best get something in writing.

JBHawkEye · Jul 4, 2008

RightorWrong said:

JBHawkEye said:

Wendell Barnhouse gives Jessica some advice on her blog:

WENDELL BARNHOUSE
I hope that Mindy McAdams takes note that I am posting under my real name. And I dearly hope that McAdams and others like her at Media General and the Tampa Tribune are soon on a street corner with signs reading Will Manage (Poorly) For Food.
To the lovely and talented Jessica DaSilva:
When I was intern age I certainly believed I knew everything about journalism and newspapers. Thank God I didnt have a blog on which to post. Some newsroom veteran would have killed me with a pica pole (Google to find out what that is).
Your enthusiastic blog should have taught you a few lessons:
1. Unlike your private diary/thoughts, what you blog or post on Al Gores invention is there for the world to see and read.
2. Writing on blogs need to be filtered. Think before you write. Read before you post. If you havent rewritten most of your post before its posted, youre headed for trouble.
3. Thats what editors do. They just dont change layed to laid. They ask questsions like, Is this what you mean to say? This is not clear; can you tell me what youre trying to say? Are you sure this is what you were aiming for?
Im a 36-year veteran of newspapers who recently left the business. It is dying if not already dead. Your editing hero is rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. And hyper local translates to hyper cheap. The Tampa Tribuines investigative group will wind up getting one good-sized story a year and a lot of nickel and dime gotcha stories that will do more harm than good.
One last interesting thing about the Internet. You find all sorts of things everywhere. You quoted your Editor Hero: We can see a better future for journalism right across the bridge on the other side, but the bridge is on fire, and if we just stand here, we are going to burn up with it.
A McClatchy veep in charge of news coverage used the same analogy and wording on his web site. Turns out your hero is a plagarist. Too bad she doesnt understand about attributing the source of her pithy analogy.

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That was damn impressive.
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While there is incredible advice in Wendell's post, the thing that made me laugh was him pointing out that the ME plagiarized part of her speech. That's good stuff.

Moderator1 · Jul 4, 2008

Mick Elliott, who has covered golf for a long time in Tampa and at least two Olympics (because we hung out at both), will cover Florida. He apparently will not move to Gainesville.
And there will apparently be no FSU beat writer.

I'm told Mick's "promotion" was announced to the staff. Haven't talked to Mick in ages. Curious what he thinks of the "promotion."

Andy _ Kent · Jul 4, 2008

Moderator1 said:

Mick Elliott, who has covered golf for a long time in Tampa and at least two Olympics (because we hung out at both), will cover Florida. He apparently will not move to Gainesville.
And there will apparently be no FSU beat writer.

I'm told Mick's "promotion" was announced to the staff. Haven't talked to Mick in ages. Curious what he thinks of the "promotion."
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Some Independence Day already, eh?

Moddy, have you heard anything more about what Mizzou is reporting on the two writers being asked to move up to Gainesville?

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