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Bob Ryan: I don't think the "average" fan cares about advanced metrics in MLB

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by H.L. Mencken, May 18, 2014.

  1. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Think we might be playing some oop bingo tonight.

    You troll.
     
  2. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    Grab your dabbers and cards the first game will be two lines anyway
     
  3. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    The criteria for those values is chosen. It is fairly simple, which is what brings me back to saying that you are just refusing to admit what you clearly see.

    Edit: Also, if I'm reading the formula correctly, it measures the value of those results the same regardless of where they happen and for which team the player creates that result. Why not use only results for that player's team? It also brings the value judgement into question because a double to start an inning from the No. 2 batter in the Detroit Tigers' lineup does not have the same likelihood to create a run as a leadoff double by the Astros' No. 2 hitter.

    There is NOTHING wrong with making that choice. The same choice is made with stats I think of as more useful, particularly OPS, but when a statistic is supposed to measure a value, it should be able to do that.
     
  4. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Except that there is subjectivity in the method. Of course, I don't expect you to admit any flaw in any advanced metric.
     
  5. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    He's not trolling. He's just refusing to acknowledge the flaw in an advanced metric, which is the norm for Rick.

    But here's one just for you. Thank you for contributing nothing.
     
  6. OOP is big on objective measures such as leadership, guts, wins, batting average, RBI, etc.
     
  7. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Wrong again, Walter, but that's nothing new. I'm as critical as anybody of the use of wins to measure a pitcher's performance. Not a huge fan of batting average or RBI, either. But I do prefer statistics that objectively measure what they claim to measure, such as OPS.
     
  8. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    Not a man of his word. Took all of eight hours. Very impressive.
     
  9. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Huh?
     
  10. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    Added his promise, oop. He said it.
     
  11. Credibility matters here, especially with the cornfield sex and backdoor neighbor threads.
     
  12. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

     
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