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Bobby Abreu to NYY for steaming pile of crap

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by beefncheddar, Jul 30, 2006.

  1. Since last year's All-Star game - Abreu has been hitting a HR once every 43 AB. If he keeps up at that clip - it would take Abreu 1294 AB in a season to hit 30 HR.

    The Abreu supporters seem to think that he'll magically return to his 2004 form. Say what you want but Pat Gillick is no fool and he basically just gave away Abreu. He knows Abeu is no longer an elite level player and is nowhere near worth $15 million a year.
     
  2. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    Nothing takes the Yankees out of the running to obtain ANY player. They have a virtually unlimited budget. They can spend whatever they want on any player they want.
     
  3. I love your logic.

    So signing Gary Sheffield didn't take the Yankees out of the running to sign Vlade Guerrero either
     
  4. beefncheddar

    beefncheddar Guest

    I'm an Abreu supporter (and disgusted Phils phan) and I'll agree -- there's no way he's going to approach 30 homers. At the same time, does he really need to, in order to be effective in that lineup?

    There's two things he can still do at a world-class level: Work a pitcher and get on base. Those two things are going to, IMO, prove to be invaluable to the Yankees. While he's not going to be a HR machine, he'll be great in NY.

    He's going to drive runs in with doubles. And he's going to score all kinds of runs because he's got guys there that are going to be driving him in, as opposed to the Phils, who this year have been putrid with RISP.
     
  5. Pastor

    Pastor Active Member

    Just to correct this incredibly poor statement. I, and no one else, advocated having Giambi in the field. The reality is that when Sheffield returns, Giambi will probably be on the field more in order to keep his bat in the line-up. If you can't see that or you believe that this is some form of advocation for his fielding services, you need to go back and check your reading comprehension skills.

    When Sheffield returns, it will likely be as a DH. Because of this, Giambi cannot DH. Torre will want to keep Giambi in the line-up and will do so by placing him at first base.
     
  6. Guy_Incognito

    Guy_Incognito Well-Known Member

    Whatever you think about the merits of the deal (I think this is pretty accurate), this made me laugh:

    http://humbug.baseballtoaster.com/archives/450366.html
     
  7. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Lou, I wasn't sure which of your posts to quote, but I'll start here because it contains the most foolish comment. Bernie Williams is not a better defender than Abreu. He's lost too much range and has a terrible arm. Abreu may dog it on occasion, but at least he still has the physical tools to be out there.

    I understand Red Sox fans trying to make themselves feel better, but getting Abreu without even giving up a quality prospect is a tremendous gift for the Yankees. He doesn't have to hit for power. Just get on base all the time (which he does) and bat .290-plus (which he usually does).

    Bottom line is the Yankees just got a good bit better and it didn't cost them much.
     
  8. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    They have a virtually unlimited budget because of their owner's will to win. They lost between $50 and $85 million last year according to several MLB sources. The Royals turned a modest profit. I'd say that any team can spend whatever they want on any player they want. The difference is Steinbrenner is willing to.
     
  9. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    I've said it before but it bares repeating - the Yankees now put 4 million people in seats annually - in 1996 attendance was less than 2 million.

    The additional 2 mil gate pays a lot of salaries.

    The saying you have to spend money to make money truly applies to the Yankees.
     
  10. Columbo

    Columbo Active Member

    According to Forbes:

    The Yankees had $354 million in revenue last year.

    Take away salaries ($223 million), and we are talking about a remnant revenue number of $131 million.

    Having a real hard time they lost a cent.

    It should be said that, while baseball, has the poorer model, it has improved by a chunk the past four years.
     
  11. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2247401

    I believe this is accurate, too, not BS. There are other expenses to running a baseball team than player salaries. The Yankees paid $111 million in luxury tax last year, for example. Forbes, by the way, in its team valuations report estimates that the Yankees lost $50 million last year. Read "The Skinny."

    http://www.forbes.com/lists/2006/33/334613.html
     
  12. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    BTW, column by Dan Wetzel made this point yesterday...

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=dw-yankees073006&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
     
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