Bonds, the HR chase & the race issue

bigpern23,

You are simply wrong. Go back and read the Chronicle's article quoting Bonds' grand jury testimony. He never said that, period. What he basically said was that he had a strength coach, running coach, stretching coach and team trainer and that all of them routinely came up and rubbed white, blue and clear creams on him on a daily basis. Yes, he said that he used flaxseed oil. So what? A lot of baseball players who have joint pain and inflammation use flaxseed oil. Whether Bonds has ever used steroids or not is not the issue. The issue being discussed here is whether or not he ever said he used "the clear and the cream." The answer is that he did not. This is all an assumption by the prosecution and a reporting of this misinformation by the Chronicle. Now, there are people routingly perpetuating something that is simply not true.

 

Unfortuantely, The Hedgehog never won a Nobel Prize. My list is about 1% of the Jewish Nobel Prize winners. Which was my point, Whitlock takes pride in Tony Dungy's and Tiger Wood's accomllishments, I choose to take pride in the accomplishments of people that matter.

 

This is 100 percent accurate. Absolutely amazing how this kind of stuff, repeated often enough, becomes a "fact" in the minds of casual observers.

 

Clinton never had sex with Monica and Bonds never used performance enhancing substances?

 

Read much? The question raised was whether Bonds had admitted in his grand jury testimony to using "the clear and the cream." All Bonds ever conceded, according to the leaked testimony, was that his various trainers rubbed any number of ointments on him, including flaxseed oil. Somehow, that morphed into 'Bonds says he thought the cream and the clear were flaxseed oil,' which is an inaccurate and, to me, malicious synopsis.

 

If there is such "overwhelming evidence" why do you think prosecutors or MLB haven't pulled the trigger?

 

A pitcher was just suspended for taking steroids -- more evidence that pitchers were/are juicing just as much as hitters thus taking away any perceived edge the hitters had during this steroids era.

And I find it funny that there is all this "overwhelming" evidence that Bonds took steroids -- yet the prosecutors who always brag they could indict a "ham sandwhich" can't even find enough evidence to indict Bonds.

I also find it hilarious that guys like Shawn Merriman, this pitcher, Jason Giambi -- guys who have acrually been busted and suspended -- are less villianized (if that's a word) than Bonds, whose main sin seems to be that he is a jerk.

I don't think race has as much to do with the hatred of Bonds, though I'm sure it is some part of the equation among some of the Bonds haters that populate the red states in middle and southeastern parts of our country, as the fact that Bonds is a "meanie" who didn't kiss the ass of the baseball writers and because of it quickly became public enemy No. 1.

 

Whether Bonds used steroids IS the issue.

He cheated the integrity of the game.
McGwire cheated the integrity of the game.
Pete Rose cheated the integrity of the game.
Joe Jackson cheated the integrity of the game.

No one EVER investigated Aaron for cheating the integrity of the game.

 

Just put your head back in the sand, dude. It'll be OK.

 

They are looking for co orboration from someone who hasn't cut a deal. I can't imagine that they don't have the drug testing results from MLB.

 

This is exactly why the two Chronicle reporters have done a disservice. They took misinformation spoon fed to them by the feds that was simply untrue and promoted these lies to the public. They basically told the world that the feds had cought a thirty foot shark (busted an international steroid distribition ring and with millions of dollars of cash that had been laundered). That as the first lie that was told. The evidence in the case was miniscule and forty of forty- two charges were dropped. After spending tens of millions of dollars and more than three years, the feds cut a deal for four months at a men's retreat. Why? Because they had lied about the evidence and their two puppets from the Chronicle had promoted these lies. The Chroncle published that there was "millions of dollars in cash laundered and there would be tax evasion charges." Outright lies by the feds and the Chronicle. The wrist slap charges and plea bargin didn't happen by chance. They didn't have the evidence that had been reported by the Chronicle, period. Same exact thing with Bonds. The feds and Chronicle have reported lies about the strength of the "overwhelming" evidence against him. Now, they are unable to prove their case and are afraid to bring the charges and let the world find out that they caught a two inch minnow instead of a shark. There is a very simple reason they have not indicted Bonds. They don't have enough evidence to win their case. If the feds and the Chronicle had accurately portrayed the evidence in the first place, the debate would me much less heated. The Chronicle headline "40 of42 charges dropped" says it all. There was a conspiracy to misrepresent the evidence. Nobody buckled. The truth came out. The light sentences didn't happen by accident. The Chronicle had repeatedly reported inaccurate and misleading information. Other sports journalists have bee played and bigtime. How does it feel?