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Breaking Bad Season 5 Thread

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by Batman, Jun 4, 2012.

  1. Bubbler

    Bubbler Well-Known Member

    They did. That's why I'm wondering where Jesse's going with this other than his spidey sense of suspecting Walt. His spidey sense being dead-on of course.

    Jesse knows ricin wasn't used to poison Brock. Jesse suspects, but doesn't know, that Walt used Lily Of The Valley. Walt tossed the Lily Of The Valley plant when he cleaned his house post-Gus Bomb, so there's no smoking gun.

    I've never been to New Mexico, but I'm guessing that Lily Of The Valley isn't so uncommon that Brock couldn't have happened on it by mistake. I'm sure that's Walt's story and he'll be sticking to it.

    I kind of hope uses the ricin on Jesse. I'm tired of his conflicted moral compass.
     
  2. dreunc1542

    dreunc1542 Active Member

    I thought every scene was really well done. Each one was shot and executed about as well as possible. Emotionally, it felt about the same as the first two, but the overall quality was a step up.
     
  3. Roscablo

    Roscablo Well-Known Member

    But he knew the ricin disappeared and it was the source of much stress. Now knowing for sure that it was taken from him, and it was Walt who did it, opens up many cans of worms. Not to mention confirms many of his suspicions about his partner.
     
  4. dreunc1542

    dreunc1542 Active Member

    And Bubbler, I disagree. I love the extreme shades of grey that Jesse's character has always had, and the way Aaron Paul brings those alive on screen are incredible. I have no idea what will happen with him, but I hope he doesn't die, especially not at the hands of Walt.
     
  5. Bubbler

    Bubbler Well-Known Member

    I hope Walt kills his ass painfully. :D

    I don't disagree with your point, and I certainly I don't mean it as an insult to Aaron Paul, who does an outstanding job, it just seems like Jesse always falls back into this woe-is-me rut and never escapes it. Of course a lot of it is Walt's doing, but he lacks the strength to ever escape it.

    Now that we're on his third or fourth crisis of confidence it's kind of getting old.

    Maybe it's just my age or the fact that I'm a father myself, but I identify more with Walt than Jesse. That's part of it too.
     
  6. Versatile

    Versatile Active Member

    I don't identify with any of these characters. Maybe Badger.
     
  7. Jake_Taylor

    Jake_Taylor Well-Known Member

    If Walt had stuck with the company he helped found I wonder if he'd have turned into the same kind of ruthless son of a bitch in the corporate world.
     
  8. Bubbler

    Bubbler Well-Known Member

    I eagerly await your Star Trek script.

    I identify with Walt in one important way ... the idea that you protect your family.

    His way of doing it is completely bat shit, but I get it while not condoning his method, and when he's faced with the choice of giving himself up -- which means giving up his family, with Skyler likely to go to jail too -- I totally get why he won't do it.

    I identify with Todd too for reasons that shall remain a mystery.
     
  9. Bubbler

    Bubbler Well-Known Member

    I doubt it because it's his pride of having fucked up his chance with that company that burns so hot inside him and morphs his every decision. Without that, he's probably just regular old Walt.
     
  10. dreunc1542

    dreunc1542 Active Member

    Speaking of Skyler, Anna Gunn wrote an op/ed in The Times about the way Skyler is perceived. Not surprisingly, since I'm one of her few defenders here, I agree with most of this: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/24/opinion/i-have-a-character-issue.html?_r=0. Gilligan has said similar things.
     
  11. Jake_Taylor

    Jake_Taylor Well-Known Member

    But that pride is in him either way. If it wasn't losing out on his share of a billion dollar company maybe it's something else that sends him down that road.

    The idea of protecting his family might have been somewhat noble at first, but he's more than provided them with the money they need once he's gone. At this point that may be how he justifies it to himself, but he's admitted he's in the "empire" business. That's why he stuck with it.
     
  12. Versatile

    Versatile Active Member

    Did you also always know your black girlfriend was going to go back to her black boyfriend in the end (not because of race but because he was the quarterback and you were the kicker)?
     
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