Breaking News: Vick will not admit to killing dogs or gambling

That's all well and good, and probably 100% accurate. But is still does not mean that he has to plead to killking dogs and gambling when those charges never were brought.

Every story I'd read all week was that he was pleading guilty to the conspiracy charges and nothing else. Is he getting off easy? Yup!

Is it "breaking news" that he will not admit to killing dogs and gambling? No, because never has it been said he was plelading to those charges since those charges never were brought against him.

If people want to be outraged that he was not charged with those crimes, so be it. Fact is, he was not charged with those crimes, entered a plea probably to avoid those charges being brought and therefore is not obligated to admit to anything other than conspiracy in his allocution.

 

No evidence? No evidence?

There are several dogs that show signs of fighting, fighting equipment and blood-stained carpets all removed from a property Vick owned, and there is some evidence that Vick provided funds to pay for all of the expenses associated with the kennels. In addition, if all of that left some reasonable doubt floating around, there are three witnesses who actually saw Vick kill the dogs and participate in the fights. There's also other evidence, such as his rather-eager-to-talk father and various people who will say they saw Vick at these fights.

No one is arguing that Vick should be pleading guilty to something he's not charged with. Stop acting as if they are. What several people are wondering, though, is why in the hell are prosecutors gift wrapping a deal for him when this seems like a very easy win.

 

Any plea deal that gets anyone even slightly off the hook is bullshit. Ratting on others and avoiding embarrassing trials should not be rewarded. You either committed the crime, or you didn't, and if you did, you should be given the proper punishment.

 

From Pro Football Talk:

spnited, he can admit that he didn't have anything to do with killing them, but it sounds like, in my POV, that he's an accessory to the crime. An accessory, IIRC, is just as guilty of letting a crime take place, even if they had no part in it. In other words, he could have stopped it if he wanted to, but he chose not to do so.

If that provision is in the federal law book, then the argument that it's not a crime to stand and let the crime happened is moot. If Vick is saying that he had no part in the actual crime, then he has to prove it to Hudson that his boys were lying about what he actually did. That sounds like someone is lying.

After reading most of it, something isn't jiving

 

Because you and me and everyone else don't know how easy it is to win. Because we don't know that some idol-worshipping jury (or juror, it only takes one to hang a jury) in Atlanta might not believe the testimony (see: Simpson, OJ)

What the Feds got was a plea that will put Vick in prison and the effects of that will end his life as he currently knows it.
The standard NFL contract says it can be voided if a player is convicted of or pleads guilty to a felony. Think Blank isn't going tovoid that contract?
Goodell can and probably will suspend him for life.
So Mike Vick does 12 or 18 months in prison and comes out with no job, no money, no nothing.
Works for me.

 

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Is gonna mother hubbard soft soap me
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Money for rope

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With just a pocketful of soap
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From uptight, short-sighted, narrow-minded hypocrites
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Ive had enough of reading things
By neurotic, psychotic, pig-headed politicians
All I want is the truth now
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Again, D-3 fan, HE IS NOT CHARGED WITH KILLING DOGS. The prosecutors appraetnly used the threat of that chrage to get the plea they did.
He doesn't even have to mention killing dogs in his allouction because he is pleading to conspiracy and running an illegal dog-fighting ring.

Again, many of you seem to mbe missing the point in your overwhelming desire to see Vick "nailed to the wall."
He copped a plea to avoid further charges. It is done every day of the year in every court in America. Killing dogs or gambling IS NOT PART OF THE INDICTMENT OR PLEA AGREEMENT.
I understand if you think he is getting off too easy, but for God sake understand the facts of the plea agreement.

 

boston.com is saying Vick has admitted to killing dogs as part of the plea.


http://www.boston.com/sports/football/articles/2007/08/24/vick_files_plea_in_court/

 

All right. Time to shut your pie hole spnited:

"The summary of facts accompanying the plea agreement obtained by the Journal-Constitution says Vick was aware four dogs were killed in 2002 and six to eight dogs were killed this past April as a result of the "collective efforts" of Vick and two of his co-defendants."

Full story (Vick pleads): http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/falcons/stories/2007/08/24/vick_0824.html