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Budget talks: This is getting nasty

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by printdust, Jul 13, 2011.

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  1. secretariat

    secretariat Active Member

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    secretariat, Jul 31, 2011
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  2. pressmurphy

    pressmurphy Member

    Just-for-grins scenario:

    Obama and a mainstream GOP candidate sew up nominations at the conventions. A Tea Party wildcard and a dissatisfied Dem run independent campaigns.

    The four split up the popular and electoral votes in a fashion in which no one comes close to the needed 270.

    Election gets thrown into the Republican-controlled House, where the only viable coalition is among the two Democrat factions that still lack enough votes.

    Naturally, the Tea Party would never defect to the left. But would enough more traditional Republicans break ranks -- either to the left or the right -- to settle the matter?

    All absurd, I know. But more fun to think about than the Chinese water torture of the last two months.
     
    pressmurphy, Jul 31, 2011
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  3. Crash

    Crash Active Member

    Spending debates should come when Congress is authorizing spending. Not when it's authorizing paying the bills it has already accrued.

    And before you break out the "Obama opposed raising the limit in 2006," he was a fucking idiot when he did it too.
     
    Crash, Jul 31, 2011
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  4. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    The Baggers and mainstream GOP would unite. Remember, their preeminent goal above everything else is to get rid of Obama. Who knew he would turn out to be such a cooperative victim?
     
    Starman, Jul 31, 2011
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  5. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    It should be debated when spending is authorized.

    It wasn't.

    The "Tea Party" made sure it was now, when they could.

    Good on 'em. Now, let's do it again when new spending is authorized.
     
    YankeeFan, Jul 31, 2011
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  6. king cranium maximus IV

    king cranium maximus IV Active Member

    More government for me, less for thee.
     
    king cranium maximus IV, Jul 31, 2011
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  7. J Staley

    J Staley Member

    So, like when we have another war or proposed tax cut?

    And let's not pretend that the Tea Party had any other goal besides blindly cutting spending, for the sake of corporate America, but under the guise it was for the majority of Americans.
     
    J Staley, Jul 31, 2011
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  8. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    This is the most cogent thing you can say about this all. This is made up drama. And worse, they aren't arguing about anything substantive. They are just arguing to take opposing sides on something, even if there is very little difference between them.

    But the debt ceiling itself? It's our debt. When I get a bill for something I already bought, if I have the ability to pay--as the U.S. does, and will continue to, despite the mess we are making of ourselves--its unconscionable not to pay. These are the same people who were all too happy to spend--Republicans and Democrats. The "time to pay the interest on the debt *WE* racked up, shouldn't even be a question.
     
    The Big Ragu, Jul 31, 2011
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  9. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    Oh sure they did: They wanted their countree back.

    From the forces of "darkness" which had taken it over.
     
    Starman, Jul 31, 2011
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  10. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    A sitting POTUS getting primaried!?!

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
     
    Inky_Wretch, Jul 31, 2011
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  11. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    Well, no sitting POTUS in my lifetime has ever so resoundingly and completely abandoned his own core base in order to curry favor with implacably hostile opponents.

    Maybe he thinks there's gonna be some great golden payoff day when the GOP rises as one and says, "You know, that fella Obama really isn't such a bad guy after all."

    I ain't holdin' my breath.
     
    Starman, Jul 31, 2011
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  12. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    I think it will be Romney AND Perry. It's just a question of who is at the top of the ticket.
     
    Armchair_QB, Jul 31, 2011
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