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Budget talks: This is getting nasty

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by printdust, Jul 13, 2011.

  1. deskslave

    deskslave Active Member

    Someone needs to tell the Republicans that you don't get to agree to a compromise, then refuse to accept the compromise without a further compromise, then when you get turned down, claim that the other side is refusing to compromise.
     
  2. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Easy to be the party of 'no.' Hard to govern.
     
  3. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member

    They call what they're doing "leadership".

    Try not to laugh. Cantor's totally out to lunch, and 'way out of his depth.
     
  4. Tarheel316

    Tarheel316 Well-Known Member

    Precisely ...
     
  5. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Meanwhile African American unemployment at 16%.
     
  6. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    Ending the wars could free up a lot of coin.
     
  7. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Guys, None of this is about dealing with our debt. It's about posturing.

    The debt ceiling has nothing to do with lowering our debt. The debt ceiling is a matter of making good on the debt we have already racked up. Not raising it would be the equivalent of spending on installment payments and then refusing to make your payments.

    This is going to drag on until August 2, as somewhat arbitrary of a date as it is, because there is no incentive to do anything until then. They have these stupid positions they have taken regarding spending cuts and taxes as preconditions to pass a raise to the ceiling. If either gives anything, they look like they "lost." Come August 2, though, they will find some sort of compromise -- which in the scheme of things is meaningless with regard to our debt -- and each will get to claim they saved the world.

    If you wanted to end this now and take away the uncertainty, there would be one easy way. Move that arbitrary deadline to tomorrow. They will do something when they HAVE to. They will come up with some "compromise" then and then can each claim that they didn't cave.
     
  8. deskslave

    deskslave Active Member

    Obama strikes me as the kind of person whom being interrupted infuriates more than just about anything else. To say nothing of the lack of respect for the office (remember that?) of interrupting the president mid-sentence.
     
  9. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    The discussion of whether the President "stormed out of the room" is pretty funny.

    Canto says he did.

    The President's defenders say the meeting is over when the President leaves the room, so he didn't storm out, he simply ended the meeting.
     
  10. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    No one has said on the record that Cantor interrupted the President.

    Cantor denies it:

    So, before we just take that version of the story as Gospel, maybe somebody should get a quote on the record.
     
  11. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Alternatively, we could simply put off the 2012 elections indefinitely. All of this posturing is simply "message testing" for the next year or so.
     
  12. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Clearly it was a negotiating ploy on Obama's part. It sure made it out to the media fast.

    The posturing of both parties is disgraceful. Does anyone really think that social security checks won't go out on time.

    It would be a good way to kill off some people who are bleeding the medicare budget dry. Imagine the stress it would cause someone with a heart condition if their check did not arrive on time.
     
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