Budget talks: This is getting nasty

Agree.

You have 80 percent of the American people who support a balanced approach. Eighty percent of the American people support an approach that includes revenues and includes cuts. So the notion that somehow the American people aren't sold is not the problem.

-- Barack Obama

 

Have you seen this plan? I haven't.

What are the cuts? When do they kick in? Is there a mechanism in place to ensure they happen?

How many Democrat votes are there in the House for this plan? Because, you see, if the members of the Progressive Caucus won't vote for a plan that mixes tax increases and spending cuts, then they are every bit as stubborn -- and just as big an impediment to getting a deal done -- as the "Tea Party" folks.

And, let's face it, Nanacy Pelosi won't be able to deliver many votes at all for a plan like this. It would have to pass with nearly full Republican support though.

That won't happen. You'll loose the "Tea Party".

So, drop the tax increases & it will get done.

 

Just one proposed cut, and Democrats in New York are up in arms:

So, even if tax increases are included, how many House Dems will vote for a deal that cuts spending?

 

Stretch much?

The gist of his statement remains clear: The vast majority of the population does not want to smell what the GOP is cooking.

 

As somebody said, a few days ago:

The People have barely finished bailing out a number of banks who didn't deserve to be bailed out, given their broad conduct. And said banks acted as if it were their f'n due.

Now, the right wants to largely exempt the golden 1% from any reasonable responsibility towards reducing the broad deficit?

Gag me.

 

They need to cut spending on those $150 hammers instead of teaching hospitals, which actually benefit the public.

 

Yeah, the gist. The details -- like his mom's health insurance -- don't matter as long as he's stretching the truth in the cause of the common good.

76% are open to higher taxes because they've been told this is the only "fair" solution and, besides, the new taxes won't effect you. The higher taxes will be on other people.

And, the fact remains, if the Dems in the House are unwilling to vote for a plan that cuts spending and raises taxes, then they are just as much as an impediment to getting a deal done as the "Tea Party" Republicans.

They are just as willing to drive the car over the cliff.

48% of the Senate voted against raising the debt ceiling in '06. 47%!

You could get a deal done without the "Tea Party", but Dems would have to vote for spending cuts.

Why are all of you "non partisan folks" who "just want to see a deal done" because this "is important" and people's "lives are going to get fucked with" not directing any of your non-partisan outrage at the Dems in the House?

 

Meanwhile, the FAA's authorization is about to expire:

 

Interesting development.

Grover Norquist gives Republicans some room to maneuver -- though I'm not sure the base would agree.

Here' the Post:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/out-from-under-the-anti-tax-pledge/2011/07/20/gIQAoudbQI_story.html

 

The yearly surplus from the Clinton years is a little overblown. We never paid off the national debt. From that article:

 

Thanks Grover for giving politicians permission to act.

 

President Norquist honors the principles of compromise.