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Budget talks: This is getting nasty

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by printdust, Jul 13, 2011.

  1. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    If nothing else, this is showing there are no statesmen with any clout left in D.C. just partisan politicians.
     
  2. Stitch

    Stitch Active Member

    The Patriots set up alternate governments in all 13 colonies. None of those governments were legitimate, at least in a legal sense, successors to the royal governments.
     
  3. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member

    Please stop. We're compelled to digest this shit, so we can plan our lives in an attempt to avoid the worst of the consequences of the prevailing level of D. C. whoring.
     
  4. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    When decisions are made I will plan accordingly. Until then I don't have any means to control the process.

    Nothing that The Republicans or Democrats have said in past few days means anything to me at this point. All it is is posturing.
     
  5. suburbia

    suburbia Active Member

    Not messaging testing. The messages have already been "tested" extensively. Given the hypersensitive media environment, with so many outlets competing for stories, you'd be a damn fool to convey a political message at anytime unless it has been thoroughly vetted. Elections can turn on statements made 20 years ago, never mind less than 1 1/2 years.

    Rather, these are opening shots that attempt to frame the debate to either side's advantage. This time next year, the heavy artillery will come out (powerful TV ads) to exploit the holes that these opening shots have created.
     
  6. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    Dumbing the populace down and enforcing an atmosphere of futility are also parts of the corporatist conspiracy.

    "Resistance is futile."
     
  7. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Paraphrasing the immortal words of Tex Antoine" If rape is inevitable, relax and lay back and enjoy.

    If no one is listening Washington certainly can't frame their messages.
     
  8. Stitch

    Stitch Active Member

    Time for a United States Provisional Congress?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusetts_Provincial_Congress
     
  9. BrianGriffin

    BrianGriffin Active Member

    That's going to be just short of being as disastrous as a government shutdown, but given the choice of two evils, well you pick the evil and make sure everybody knows where it originated.

    Just make sure every step along the way you raise your objections and note why you have to compromise.
     
  10. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    The unintended consequences were the most disastrous part of last government shut down.
     
  11. printdust

    printdust New Member

    So, in lieu of the current babbling by the prostitutes on both sides of the aisle, is anyone cashing in their U.S. savings bonds?
     
  12. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    The NYT business section had a very good column about this the other day. Essentially, people have had it hammered into their head so long that "out of control spending" is the root of all our troubles, they see this debt limit ceiling as a chance to finally "rein in the spending." And they think that will fix everything. Of course, as the columnist explained, they don't understand that rising health costs, an aging popluation, the largest military in the world, etc., etc., makes it impossible to just cap spending at an untenable level. Like you say, if you asked those same people whether we should shrink the military, we know what the answer would be. If you asked them whether we should ration health care, you know what the answer would be.
     
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