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Budget talks: This is getting nasty

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by printdust, Jul 13, 2011.

  1. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    And JFK would recognize today's Democrat(ic) Party?
     
  2. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    "Lower rates of taxation will stimulate economic activity and so raise the levels of personal and corporate income as to yield within a few years an increased – not a reduced – flow of revenues to the federal government."

    – John F. Kennedy, Jan. 17, 1963, annual budget message to the Congress, fiscal year 1964
     
  3. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Top Marginal Tax Rate, 1963: 91%
     
  4. Mark McGwire

    Mark McGwire Member

    First off, that's a classic distinction without a difference.

    Second, you need to see more of the board.

    Even if we grant most of what you say, and I will for the purposes of this point, all that ends the second the market shits itself.

    People WILL blame the GOP for this -- rightly so, because it is their fault. The second that becomes not an abstraction, but rather a matter of people's retirement accounts taking a major hit, the GOP will be much, much more desperate for a deal than Obama is or ever has been.

    My guess is that's Monday when the market opens.

    The GOP was never going to get a better deal than they got offered Friday. And I will say again, any SANE party who had ANY interest in governing would have taken it.
     
  5. CarltonBanks

    CarltonBanks New Member

    HAHAHAHAHA Andrew Sullivan a conservative???? Right. Guy endorsed John Kerry and Barack Obama and is #19 on Forbes Magazine's Top 25 most influential liberals. He is infatuated with Obama. Not surprising at all that he is flapping his gums against the Repubs. Give me a break.
     
  6. J Staley

    J Staley Member

    He does subscribe to a lot of conservative ideals, fiscally (which BG pointed out).

    Socially, it's different. Forbes explained this pretty accurately ...

    "His advocacy for gay marriage rights and his tendency to view virtually everything through a "gay" prism puts him at odds with many on the right."
     
  7. amraeder

    amraeder Well-Known Member

    Context is a wonderful thing, isn't it?
     
  8. CarltonBanks

    CarltonBanks New Member

    You do not endorse Barack Obama if you are a fiscal conservative. You don't come close to thinking about considering endorsing Barack Obama if you are a fiscal conservative.
     
  9. J Staley

    J Staley Member

    Couldn't Sullivan be a fiscal conservative whose election decisions are driven more by social politics? Maybe he chose Obama for that. I don't know.

    He's a fiscal conservative who doesn't like Republican tactics in these debt reduction discussions, why is that hard to put together?
     
  10. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    there's another reason too but we dare not speak it -- it might hurt somebody's feelings.
     
  11. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Christopher Buckley, Colin Powell and Dan Rooney, among many others, say you're full of shit.

    Oh, and Warren Buffett too.
     
  12. CarltonBanks

    CarltonBanks New Member

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....
     
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