Budget talks: This is getting nasty

That doesn't really offend me.

As long as it's the system, they owe it to their constituents to get their share.

 

It's the system because they perpetuate it. If you're a true believer in something, you do what's in your heart. And, after all, if the people elected you to Congress because you're a true believer in that, they will understand, right?

 

But that is exactly the problem -- you will never end that system unless you are willing to match your actions to your words. Someone, some day, has to stand up and say no to constituent pork to start the ball rolling the other way. Otherwise, it is exactly what Magic said -- hypocrisy.

 

Do people that advocate for higher taxes voluntarily send extra money in? No?

I didn't think so.

They represent people. If the Feds are doling out money -- money they sent in to the Feds -- then they owe it to their constituents to get their share.

I don't like it, but it's the system we have.

And, they're trying to change that.

 

McCain must be close to the point where he's ready to call it a career and he's in the "fuck all y'all" stage.

 

I just learned he was quoting from a WSJ Editorial.

Boehner, McCain, the WSJ, the Weekly Standard.

That's your middle America.

 

No, they're not.

The Tea Party -- based on its actual backers, not the screamers who show for rallies -- is about how the money is distributed, not about whether it's spent. The argument about the deficit is a Trojan Horse to get cut what they want cut -- programs for the poor and elderly, environmental and business regulations, etc. I don't see the Koch Brothers turning down corporate welfare headed in their direction.

The Big Lie is that the Tea Party is about fiscal responsibility. The true believers might think so, but the people providing the money for it? Not so much.

 

This.

 

I didn't think you LOVED liberals...

 

The thing that gets me about this from an outside observer's standpoint is that in any sane political system, this would long ago have been declared denial of supply, some portion or all of the government would have fallen and you'd have gone back to the polls.

 

I don't even have a problem with the airlines "pocketing the money." I mean, I do, I guess, but that's their prerogative. Whatever.

What I have a problem with is the continued perpetuation of the utter, bald-faced lie that if we cut corporate tax rates, that money will somehow end up in anyone's pocket besides that of the corporations in question.

If you want to argue that corporations should be allowed to keep more of their "hard-earned money," then do that. Just don't do it with the bullshit, repeatedly disproven utter fallacy that is trickle-down economics.

 

The federal government and the airlines; now there's one hell of a competition for mismanagement.