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Bush and congress fiddle while the world burns

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by poindexter, Jul 19, 2006.

  1. trounced

    trounced Active Member

    I didn't fail to comprehend anything. She said that embryo's weren't alive. I said they weren't dead. She retorted that they were not "truly alive yet." So, yes, they are alive.
     
  2. Read a number of them, for reasons I decline to pursue here.
    Less promising than other therapies, but worth going on with.
    Which article are you referring to?
     
  3. alleyallen

    alleyallen Guest

    If you think this is a situation of either A or B, with no middle ground, you're wrong. A thing which cannot survive on its own may very well be "alive" in one sense, but if it can't survive, what's the point? It's about to be dead anyway. Why not just call it half-dead and half-alive? If you want to quibble solely over a semantic term as opposed to reality, that's fine. Meanwhile in the real world, there's real problems which aren't solved by a dictionary definition.
     
  4. DyePack

    DyePack New Member

    The one from this very thread:

    "Stem cells, although they're promising for other diseases, it's not very likely practically that they'll be used for Alzheimer's disease, because the way stem cell replacement is practiced in clinical research is by surgically implanting stem cells into regions of the brain where there has been degeneration, and that's fairly local in terms of Parkinson's disease and Huntington's, but for the entire cerebral cortex you're talking about making dozens of little holes in the skull," says Sam Gandy, MD, PhD, director of the Farber Institute for Neurosciences at Thomas Jefferson University in Philadelphia.
     
  5. Beer_Baron

    Beer_Baron Member

    Regarding the cnn judge article trounced linked...

    if frozen embryos are people, do they get counted in censuses (censi?) Can parents claim them as dependents?

    No?

    Hmm.

    Just sayin.
     
  6. alleyallen

    alleyallen Guest

    It was an argument used in Legally Blonde, I know, and I made the argument earleir. My sperm is alive (now there's a mental image for EVERYONE on this board). If I don't use it properly, wouldn't that be considered a form of abuse, misuse or murder?
     
  7. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Definitely abuse. Self-abuse.
     

  8. Please, let us have some faith in science here.
    The AD research community is fairly united in the opinion that stem-cell research should go on -- googling "Alzheimer's stem cell" will help here -- because what is learned through the development of therapies for Parkinson's and MS will help in the search for new AD therapies. There are a couple of na-na-na-boo-boo stories from the Standard and Human Events that are 90 percent poliitical that say otherwise, but most researchers believe in more work, not less.
     
  9. JackS

    JackS Member

    I'm glad to see this thread demonstrating that the stem cell debate *IS* in fact important, no matter what side of the debate you're on and no matter what else is going on in the world.

    It shouldn't be lumped in with gay marriage and flag burning.
     
  10. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    Every sperm is sacred.
     
  11. zimbabwe

    zimbabwe Active Member

    Every sperm is great...

    If a sperm gets wasted...
     
  12. Football_Bat

    Football_Bat Well-Known Member

    ... God gets quite irate.
     
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