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Bush Meets Deficit Commitment- Early

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by Boom_70, Jun 13, 2006.

  1. This from the guy who said all Americans are on crack.

    Maybe while you are in the apologizing mood - you can apologize to the entire Marine Corps for jumping the gun and comparing Haiditha to Mai Lai.

    And regarding General Shinseki - next time get your facts straight before spouting off.
     
  2. dog428

    dog428 Active Member

    Classic, Lou telling someone to get their facts straight.

    The world is now spinning in the opposite direction.

    Next, we'll get the George W. Bush Public Speaking manual and Dick Cheney's Hunting Safety guide.
     
  3. Well, I know one thing, and I don't know if this is a Texas saying or Tennessee, but if I've been fooled once and then I've been fooled twice, but I won't be fooled again, or something like that. And so, I won't be fooled again by Bush repaying part of a deficit that he ran up by never vetoing anything. Better to just appropriate more funds to let New Orleans residents buy Saints tix and get sex changes.
     
  4. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    By Michael Kranish, Globe Staff | June 7, 2005

    WASHINGTON -- During last year's presidential campaign, John F. Kerry was the candidate often portrayed as intellectual and complex, while George W. Bush was the populist who mangled his sentences.

    But newly released records show that Bush and Kerry had a virtually identical grade average at Yale University four decades ago.


    In 1999, The New Yorker published a transcript indicating that Bush had received a cumulative score of 77 for his first three years at Yale and a roughly similar average under a non-numerical rating system during his senior year.

    Kerry authorizes release of his full military and medical records. A7.

    Kerry, who graduated two years before Bush, got a cumulative 76 for his four years, according to a transcript that Kerry sent to the Navy when he was applying for officer training school. He received four D's in his freshman year out of 10 courses, but improved his average in later years.

    The grade transcript, which Kerry has always declined to release, was included in his Navy record. During the campaign the Globe sought Kerry's naval records, but he refused to waive privacy restrictions for the full file. Late last month, Kerry gave the Navy permission to send the documents to the Globe.

    Kerry appeared to be responding to critics who suspected that there might be damaging information in the file about his activities in Vietnam. The military and medical records, however, appear identical to what Kerry has already released. This marks the first time Kerry's grades have been publicly reported.

    The transcript shows that Kerry's freshman-year average was 71. He scored a 61 in geology, a 63 and 68 in two history classes, and a 69 in political science. His top score was a 79, in another political science course. Another of his strongest efforts, a 77, came in French class.

    Under Yale's grading system in effect at the time, grades between 90 and 100 equaled an A, 80-89 a B, 70-79 a C, 60 to 69 a D, and anything below that was a failing grade. In addition to Kerry's four D's in his freshman year, he received one D in his sophomore year. He did not fail any courses.

    ''I always told my Dad that D stood for distinction," Kerry said yesterday in a written response to questions, noting that he has previously acknowledged that he spent a lot of time learning to fly instead of focusing on his studies.

    Kerry's weak grades came despite years of education at some of the world's most elite prep schools, ranging from Fessenden School in Massachusetts to St. Paul's School in New Hampshire.

    It is noteworthy, however, that Kerry received a high honor at Yale despite his mediocre grades: He was chosen to deliver his senior class oration, a testament to his reputation as a public speaker. He delivered a speech questioning the wisdom of the Vietnam War, in which he would soon see combat.

    Kerry gradually improved his grades, averaging 81 in his senior year. His highest single grade was an 89, for a political science class in his senior year. Despite his slow start, he went on to be a top student at Naval Candidate School, command a patrol boat in Vietnam, graduate from law school, and become a prosecutor, lieutenant governor, US senator, and presidential candidate.

    In his Navy application, Kerry made clear that he spent much of his college time on extracurricular activities, including the Yale Political Union, the Debating Association, soccer, hockey, fencing, and membership in the elite Skull and Bones Society. Asked to describe nonschool training that qualified him for the Navy, Kerry wrote: ''A great deal of sailing -- ocean and otherwise, including some navigation. Scuba diving. Rifle. Beginning of life saving." He said his special interests were ''filming," writing, and politics, noting that the latter subject occupied 15 hours per week.

    Gaddis Smith, a retired Yale history professor who taught both Kerry and Bush, said in a telephone interview that he vividly remembers Kerry as a student during the 1964-1965 school year, when Kerry would have been a junior. However, Smith said he doesn't have a specific memory about Bush.

    Based on what Smith recalls teaching that year, Kerry scored a 71 and 79 in two of Smith's courses. When Smith was told those scores, he responded: ''Uh, oh. I thought he was good student. Those aren't very good grades." To put the grades in perspective, Smith said that he had a well-earned reputation for being tough, and noted that such grades would probably be about 10 points higher in a similar class today because of the impact of what he called ''grade inflation."

    Bush went to Yale from 1964 to 1968; his highest grades were 88s in anthropology, history, and philosophy, according to The New Yorker article. He received one D in his four years, a 69 in astronomy. Bush has said he was a C student.

    Like Kerry, Bush reportedly suffered through a difficult freshman year and then pulled his grades up
     
  5. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    Are you actually trying to insinuate that someone's grades at age 22 are an accurate indication of his intelligence and knowledge at age 55?

    Tell me you're not saying that.

    My college grades would put 98 percent of this board's to shame.

    My actual intelligence, however, likely would not.
     
  6. My college grades put me to shame. That's why I burned them.
    Troll beanies, on the other hand, seem to have confused My Lai with Mai Lai, which, I beliece is a tropical concoction that causes people to heckle sportswriters on the street. I don't recall saying that "all Americans" are on crack. Of course, I read and write for a living so, who knows?
     
  7. Herbert Anchovy

    Herbert Anchovy Active Member

    And, it's clear, those who can't do either post tired old news clippings from the WaPo or New York Times.
     
  8. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    ." "We were misled, we were given evidence that was not true," Kerry said. "It was wrong, and I was wrong to vote [for it]." John Kerry- speaking on Iraq war. Now you tell us John.
     
  9. The Language Policeman who mispells "language", gets the first name of his expert military advisor wrong and now adds the word "beliece" to his vocabulary has the balls to pick on a My Lai vs Mai Lai. That's Mr. Moral Superiority-Do-As-I-Say-If-You-Don't-Agree-With-Me-then-I-Have-No-Other-Way-To-Deal-With-Reality-Than-To-Insult-You in a nutshell.

    Here's the thread where you said all of America is on crack.

    http://www.sportsjournalists.com/forum/threads/25223/

    I went all that way back trying to find a thread you started that reflected positively on the USA. Sadly - you have nothing but complaints (and whines - like a big pussy - spoiled brat).
     
  10. JR

    JR Well-Known Member

    And if you read the whole article, an unqualified 'yes" is probably justified.
     

  11. The level of self-loathing is at flood stage here.
    You want to call names, get drunk and do it outside the ballpark again. I'm done with that part of the dialogue.
    Shiseki told them thney needed more troops. They laughed him out of the service and smeared him anonymously in the press. He was right. They wer wrong, and your pet war went very badly.
     
  12. Why are you loathing yourself at such a level? Your problem is that you get all your news from NPR.

    You should widen your cirlces and open your mind a bit. Have you read any of Victor Davis Hanson's work?

    BTW - you're not done with any part of the dialogue because we both know that you do not engage in dialogue. You rant. And like a little spoiled baby you will rant and rant until Mommy or Daddy gives in.
     
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