Bush Meets Deficit Commitment- Early

Fenian_Bastard · Jun 16, 2006

Xan --
Isn't Bennington the model for "Emily Dickinson College" in Animal House?

Songbird · Jun 16, 2006

Not sure, but it's where Brett Easton Ellis went and based "Less Than Zero" after.

They say he'd go to parties and stand in the corner like a goddam freak and just take notes and never socialize.

Evil Bastard (aka Chris_L) · Jun 16, 2006

Fenian_Bastard said:

Lou Merloni said:

Fenian_Bastard said:

"Television and the global news media have changed the perception of combat fatalities as well. CNN would have shown a very different Iwo Jima - bodies rotting on the beach, and probably no coverage of the flag-raising from Mount Suribachi. It is conventional wisdom now to praise the amazing accomplishment of June 6, 1944. But a few ex tempore editorial comments from Geraldo Rivera or Ted Koppel, reporting live from the bloody hedgerows where the Allied advance stalled not far from the D-Day beaches - a situation rife with intelligence failures, poor equipment and complete surprise at German tactics - might have forced a public outcry to withdraw the forces from the Normandy "debacle" before it became a "quagmire."
-- VDH, 10/05

In 1943, it should be noted, because it believed that Americans should see the complete picture of WWII, the War Department lifted restrictions on photos of American losses.
This is fun, actually.
OTOH, VDH's writing on Sherman in The Soul Of Battle is really a first-class piece of work.
As a pundit, ah, not so much.
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Almost as many US soldiers died in a training exercise for D-Day than have died in the entire war in Iraq.

In the modern media the military is the enemy and any story bad about them is to be published (witness the single "windiness" story about al-Zaqawi being shot and beaten by the military). We used to hear hero stories about people like Audie Murphy but the modern media is focused on victims now not heros. Just Google Jessica Lynch vs. James Coffman or Leigh Ann Hester to see exactly what I mean (and if you don't right away recognize the names of James Coffman or Leigh Ann Hester - then my point is proven)
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There's no responding to this logically. Jessica Lynch's story -- like that of Pat Tillman, BTW -- was hyped BY THE PENTAGON, mostly to our old pal Sue Schmidt of the WaPo. "In the modern media the military is the enemy" is alternate-reality stuff, given the experience we've all had with the Embeds. The fact is, the war has gone horribly wrong, and its cheerleaders are casting about to blame anyone but themselves.
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Did I miss the Pat Tillman movie of the week, the TV movies on James Coffman or Leigh Ann Hester? Does the Pentagon control that stuff too? What a bozo you are.

Read this and tell me that this wouldn't make a great movie and yet when have you ever heard this hero's name mentioned?

http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/mcn2000.nsf/lookupstoryref/200456162723

BTW - Fairness Doctrine? Sidestepping again you weasel?

DyePack · Jun 16, 2006

Fenian_Bastard said:

Lou Merloni said:

Fenian_Bastard said:

Â Â "Television and the global news media have changed the perception of combat fatalities as well. CNN would have shown a very different Iwo Jima - bodies rotting on the beach, and probably no coverage of the flag-raising from Mount Suribachi. It is conventional wisdom now to praise the amazing accomplishment of June 6, 1944. But a few ex tempore editorial comments from Geraldo Rivera or Ted Koppel, reporting live from the bloody hedgerows where the Allied advance stalled not far from the D-Day beaches - a situation rife with intelligence failures, poor equipment and complete surprise at German tactics - might have forced a public outcry to withdraw the forces from the Normandy "debacle" before it became a "quagmire."
-- VDH, 10/05

In 1943, it should be noted, because it believed that Americans should see the complete picture of WWII, the War Department lifted restrictions on photos of American losses.
This is fun, actually.
OTOH, VDH's writing on Sherman in The Soul Of Battle is really a first-class piece of work.
As a pundit, ah, not so much.
Click to expand...

Almost as many US soldiers died in a training excercise for D-Day than have died in the entire war in Iraq.

In the modern media the military is the enemy and any story bad about them is to be published (witness the single "wintness" story about al-Zaqawi being shot and beaten by the military). We used to hear hero stories about people like Audie Murphy but the modern media is focused on victims now not heros. Just Google Jessica Lynch vs. James Coffman or Leigh Ann Hester to see exactly what I mean (and if you don't right away recognize the names of James Coffman or Leigh Ann Hester - then my point is proven)
Click to expand...

There's no responding to this logically. Jessica Lynch's story -- like that of Pat Tillman, BTW -- was hyped BY THE PENTAGON, mostly to our old pal Sue Schmidt of the WaPo. "In the modern media the military is the enemy" is alternate-reality stuff, given the experience we've all had with the Embeds. The fact is, the war has gone horribly wrong, and its cheerleaders are casting about to blame anyone but themselves.
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There's some circular logic.

Fenian_Bastard · Jun 16, 2006

Movies of the week? Was that our standard for bias in the media? Oh, I'm sorry. You're correct.
Here's an answer to your second question:
http://www.museum.tv/archives/etv/F/htmlF/fairnessdoct/fairnessdoct.htm

What you're getting at, I dont quite understand, but go ahead.

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