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Calling when ad says "no calls please"

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by ogre, Jul 25, 2006.

  1. JR

    JR Well-Known Member

    Phoning when an ad says specifically not to has nothing to do with being aggressive or demonstrating that you got bollocks.

    It means you can't read.
     
  2. expendable

    expendable Well-Known Member

    Hear! Hear!
     
  3. Mystery_Meat

    Mystery_Meat Guest

    Point of clarification: does a text count as a call or an e-mail?
     
  4. Tom Petty

    Tom Petty Guest

    solid, very solid.
     
  5. crusoes

    crusoes Active Member

    Reasonable request. Combines the two tasks with a jolt of energy.
     
  6. Bob Cook

    Bob Cook Active Member

    I'll leave the mindfuck games you play to whatever industry you're in. As someone who does hiring (in my nonsports job), the reason I don't want phone calls is because I have too much to do to waste time with every wanna-be who calls or emails, despite instructions. To me, it's not a great journalist who ignores the rule and calls. It's a dumbshit who doesn't know how to follow the rules laid out for hiring. And I don't buy that somehow I'm losing the next Woodward/Bernstein by thinking this way. Those that do call (or email) in my eight years of hiring all have been no-hopes who thought they could BS their way into a job. I'm an excellent BS artist myself, so they're not kidding me. The ones who know they are really qualified tend to let the process play out as designed. Plus, just busting through doors does not make one a great journalist. Sometimes the trick IS to play by someone else's rules until you get what you want and need.
     
  7. You guys are right. I apologize. I hope you will keep doing what you're doing. It obviously works.
     
  8. Tom Petty

    Tom Petty Guest

    what makes you think you know what works in this business and what doesn't? didn't you fail and then leave?
     
  9. Nothing Tom. You're right. When the ad says "No calls please," Don't call.

    Actually Tom, when assessing my time in the biz, I didn't fail. In fact, I obviously had quite the track record leading toward what would have been a successful journalism career with an opportunity to grow and learn. But I wanted something more. I wanted to be a part of something that helped people, moved society forward and was lucrative for my family.

    How about you Tom? Have you failed in the business? Are you one of the reasons talented and creative people are being shown the door? Are you society's future in journalism and news gathering? Tell us Tom...speak the truth about what works in this business. And how about your friend Bob Cook there also. At least we know he's not a wanna-be and can smell bullshit from across the room...sounds like a class act reading that post. Tell us your rules to Bob...tell us how many Woodward and Berstein's you've found. Tell us how great you both are.
     
  10. Tom Petty

    Tom Petty Guest

    i don't need to, dog. i'm not the one coming to this board and throwing out such "deep thoughts" such as: what's wrong with journalism is SEs don't want phone calls from 100 perspective employees.

    it's not that intelligent of a line, dog, really. that's not the biggest problem facing journalism. in fact, it's not an issue at all, despite your the sky is falling mentality.

    and, btw, i hire just fine. my last hire was the best "blind hire" i've made.
     
  11. Bob Cook

    Bob Cook Active Member

    Jesus Horatio Christ. There's a lot wrong with journalism as a business, but requesting "no calls please" and then getting hacked off when somebody ignores that message isn't even in the top 5,000. What, did you knickers get in a wad in journalism when someone told you, sensitive creative soul that you are, that you obviously couldn't read given your ignorance of the "no calls please" sign?

    Creative people aren't leaving because of "no calls please." They're leaving because they want to work business hours, want more money than most dailies can or will pay, or because the dailies are asking them to go. I'm still curious what business you're in, given you portray it as a holy cross between Mother Theresa and Mother Fucker. I'm sure it's that way because it's chock full of people who weren't restrained by The Man over not calling in between sending a resume, and receiving (or not) an interview.

    For the record, I don't know Tom Petty, but I love his song "Change of Heart." It doesn't get nearly enough airplay these days.
     
  12. txsportsscribe

    txsportsscribe Active Member

    damn, gandhi is bitter
     
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