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Can we talk about Imus like adults?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by gingerbread, Apr 11, 2007.

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  1. 21

    21 Well-Known Member

    No--they are teaching them the power of saying 'Screw you, you want to talk shit about me, you'll answer for it.'

    On the one hand you want African-Americans in general to stand up and say 'No more!'....but you want these specific African-Americans to sit down and just be ladies?
     
  2. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    Damn, PHINJ, missed that Loopy drivel this morning.


    Oh, and nice post, 21.
     
  3. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    One difference: Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton hold themselves up tpo the world as righteous, as leaders worth following. Imus never has done that (even if he is an unfunny douche).

    Also, why do you have to equivocate what Imus did with "compared to hip hop" or "Compared to Sharpton"? Why can't you call what Imus did stupid either way. Sure, there are people who have done more stupid things than what Imus did. Why so quick to point that out, though, rather than focusing on what he specifically did?

    Why can't you call Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton frauds on the basis of things they have done? Yeah, there are bigger frauds than Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. It doesn't mean you can't call each of them out for what they are.

    Just not sure why everything has to be equivocated. It's like people are eager to write off bad behavior by minimizing it with, "Well, what so-and-so did was worse."

    Ultimately, the post that started this thread is correct. In the business Imus is in, advertising dollars determine everything. If the advertisers bolt, his job is in jeopardy. If they stay, he'll survive. That's the reality.
     
  4. jboy

    jboy Guest

    Don't worry, I'm sure you'll squeak by.
     
  5. Johnny Dangerously

    Johnny Dangerously Well-Known Member

    Thanks, and thanks for the hit-and-run.
     
  6. Oz

    Oz Well-Known Member

    Exactly. Apparently, you can't like 50 Cent or Snoop Dogg or Young Jeezy and still make a point.

    Come to think of it, Jason, what's in your iPod these days?
     
  7. boots

    boots New Member

    First and foremost, the African American community doesn't have a "designated leader", It's not a team. Jackson, Sharpton, those guys have agendas and the media gives them air time.
    I'm tired of the same people being quoted all of the time. It's time for the media to go after real people. That's why I wanted to hear from the parents. I'd love to hear their take.
     
  8. Riddick

    Riddick Active Member

    yeah. who comes up with that "designated speaker" bullshit? I remember when Kanye West said that shit about president Bush. I didn't think he was wrong, but don't understand how he became one of those "designated speakers."
     
  9. shotglass

    shotglass Guest

    Now, here's what I don't get.

    I've got to think that a young woman like Essence Carson has enough self-pride, enough self-awareness to know that any reference to her as a "nappy-headed ho" is, in and of itself, patently ridiculous. It's a throwaway line. She's above it.

    In fact, I'll go as far as to say that pretty much the entire Rutgers women's roster should feel that way. These are some of the good kids in our society, young women who have made themselves successful, some coming out of less-than-ideal backgrounds, some not.

    Now, what's the ultimate problem with Imus' comment? That he "injured" these women? Well, I'm saying these women are ABOVE that sort of injury.

    That's not to say that SOME dialogue about this was not a good thing. But I really don't think that your typical Rutgers' women's player is walking around campus today trying to look behind every pair of eyes upon them, wondering if that person REALLY thinks they're what Imus said they were.
     
  10. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    I wonder what the reaction would have been if Imus and friends and just called the team a bunch of scary bull dykes? Would there even had been a suspension or any outcry?
     
  11. boots

    boots New Member

    Yes. If my daughter was on that team and that fucker called them that, I'd be in Astoria faster than Grant went through Richmond.
     
  12. Chi City 81

    Chi City 81 Guest

    I suppose one becomes a "designated speaker" by actually having the desire to get up and speak. It's a free country (for the most part); anyone who wishes to speak on an issue publicly may do so. The media can only report on those who do, and Kanye West was one of them. Ditto Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, et al.
     
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