Charlie Weis is An ASS

I would love it if we eliminated media polls. Perhaps then we could get a more objective assessment of college sports. Hell, revamp the Heisman too. I never did understand why journalists get a vote, anyway. This is not to say that sports would not be continued to be covered as news, but we would eliminate an entire breed of people who feel its their job to not only report what's going on, but give their opinion, no matter how skewed it is.

 

Of course, we all know that the important non-sports journalism you'd like to see is produced by reporters who never do anything without the permission of their subjects.

You know nothing about the amount of work and time Jeff and his co-worker put into that story, so stop embarrassing and exposing yourself as a know-nothing fanboy.

You also disregard your "local shill," yet aren't you criticizing Carroll, et al for not falling into lockstep with the rest of the local shills?

Jeff Carroll would write and report circles around you and most of the other people on this board. That he's got you knocking him on this message board at 4 am acknowledges just how good he is. Do you think he cares enough about what you think to post here, Weisbumlickers.com or anywhere else at any time of the day? Nope.

He wins, you lose.

We really do need a better vetting process here.

 

No doubts that non-sports journalism is reported often times without the permission of its subject. The difference of course being that its one thing to write an expose on crooked politicians, or about some criminal proceedings because these all effect society as a whole. Its the public's right to know about this. That is of course a lot different than calling up some 18 year old to get some juicy gossip on another 18 year old. I expect good coaches to protect their players from saying something they will regret, especially when its goaded out of them by a sports journalist looking for a headline.

As for how long they spent writing those articles, if it was longer than 2 hours, I feel bad for them. Have you read the four part series? Do you realize the gaps in logic present in said stories? Carroll's prior body of work (which was actually decent) does not excuse him for publishing that abortion of a series.

Being on at 4am has really nothing to do with anything considering I work nights, and am up anyway. Also, how does the fact that I am knocking him make the article good? That's faulty logic, isn't it? If the article was as good as you imply, wouldn't their be overwhelming support for it?

 

There is overwhelming support for Jeff, big guy. Read this thread.

As for the public's right to know, I guess you're right. I guess people have no right to know anything at all, other than whatever Charlie deems newsworthy during his press conference, about the most storied athletic program in America.

Also hard to take your essay on the state of American sports journalism seriously when you have a hard time figuring out the correct usage of there.

I've read much of Jeff's work, including the story that has your dirty Fruit of the Looms (thanks FH!) in a bunch. That you can even make a crack about him working two hours on the story proves how clueless you are not only about Jeff but the story-writing process as a whole. Time for you to go back to ndnation.com.

 

Beautiful thread -- and the primary reason I spend too much time here. The apologist houseboys expose themselves for the
tools they are . . .

 

OK, then please tell me your plan for writing a story on if Notre Dame can maintain its academic integrity through admissions and return to being a football powerhouse. How would you illustrate the notion that the rest of the college football world plans on holding Notre Dame accountable to the standards it wants to set for itself. If being a sports writer is so ridiculously easy I would like to hear your plan for "throughly researched" and "convincing" writing. You decry sports journalists as nothing more than a bunch opinions being printed in the paper, yet you want your stories to be convincing. Kind of seems to indicate that you don't care if we are biased or not, as long as we are biased toward the blessed Golden Dome.

 

Can the Irish avoid their NINTH straight bowl loss?

Stay tuned . . .

 

Seemed bad form to me, as well . . .

 

Wow, that's an asshole move.
But it turns out I know McNugget Man.

And Rugby, for the sake of those of us who occasionally try to defend Notre Dame on this board, please go away.

 

To be convincing, all I need is someone to actually just give me the facts. Write a story that contains factual information, and let me draw my own conclusion. Don't piss on me and try to tell me its raining. If the articles were actually unbiased and factual, and painted ND in a bad light, I wouldn't care. The problem comes in when Carroll starts graspong at straws to try and make his point. He uses that woman's book as an example that ND can't maintain its academic integrity. The problem is, her entire premise is that NO school can maintain it while having solid sports programs. Her views were never supposed to be construed as applying to ND only, which is what Carroll attempts to imply. Furthermore, she is no way qualified as an expert on college football.

Also, it seems to be conveniently left out the football team achieved its highest team GPA EVER last year. That sure signals the downfall of the "academic integrity" of the football team.