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Chevy Volt a Failure - GM to Layoff 1,300

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Evil Bastard (aka Chris_L), Mar 2, 2012.

  1. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    From 2002. Who was President then?

    http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/autos/2002-12-18-suv-tax-break_x.htm

    WASHINGTON — Karl Wizinsky wasn't thinking about buying a new vehicle, and certainly not a big SUV. So why is there a brand-new $47,000 Ford Excursion sitting in his driveway?

    He was able to write off $32,000 of the purchase price as a business expense.

    "We really did it because it was a pretty hefty deduction," said Wizinsky, a health care consultant in Novi, Mich.

    At the same time the tax code sanctions $30,000 write-offs for SUVs, prospective purchasers of a fuel-efficient hybrid vehicles qualify for a relatively small $4,000 tax credit.
     
  2. Bamadog

    Bamadog Well-Known Member

    I have no problem with that. Give me a flat rate, a deduction for charitable giving and lets go from there.

    And I don't like tax writeoffs for any vehicle. Be it SUV or glorified golf cart.

    The tax code is far too complex, larded with various payoffs to constituencies from both the left and the right. When my wife and I, who aren't plutocrats, need to go to an accountant to get our taxes done, that's a serious problem.
     
  3. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Treasury to sell GM stake. Be interesting to see if it breaks even, even by the Treasury's accounting, i.e.,

    "Unlike the A.I.G. rescue, however, the government’s wind-down of its G.M. bailout is expected to lose money. The Treasury Department’s break-even pricepoint is generally estimated at about $53 a share, following the car maker’s I.P.O.

    But the Treasury Department has long argued that the auto makers’ bailout was always expected to be unprofitable, offset by both the A.I.G. rescue and the bank recapitalization program."


    dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/12/19/treasury-to-sell-g-m-stake-within-15-months/?hp
     
  4. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    They want to get out at the lower capital gains tax rate. Smart play.
     
  5. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    Hmmm. Our burgeoning Socialist movement seems to be stalling out ...
     
  6. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    How is it going to break even? The share price trades at half of where they need it to be to make back what they gave to the company in exchange for equity.

    This is going to be an additional $20 billion at minimum, and more likely $27 billion, of national debt.
     
  7. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    Won't come anywhere close to breaking even.

    Funny how they waited until after the election to take that bath.
     
  8. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Again:


    "But the Treasury Department has long argued that the auto makers’ bailout was always expected to be unprofitable, offset by both the A.I.G. rescue and the bank recapitalization program."
     
  9. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    It's an end of year tax sale. They can offset their gain on AIG with loss on GM. Smart use of the tax code.
     
  10. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

  11. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    Exactly. We don't want anyone accusing the Obama administration of having an underlying profit motive in its Great Socialism Experiment.
     
  12. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    That was a no duh, though. How could they have suggested otherwise? They basically paid off massive debts for a company -- and gave an outsized stake of equity in the bankruptcy they strongarmed to the UAW in a quid pro quo for campaign contributions. As a result, GM has a stronger balance sheet. No longer drowning in debt, making bankruptcy necessary.

    But they didn't fix GM's business. The company has benefited a bit from the Federal Reserve's cheap monetary policy, but it is languishing compared to other car makers.

    Fear not, though, the $37 billion GM and Chrysler will add to our national debt had its intended effect. The UAW has funneled hundreds of millions of dollars to campaign war chests and PACs. Mission accomplished.
     
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