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Chevy Volt a Failure - GM to Layoff 1,300

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Evil Bastard (aka Chris_L), Mar 2, 2012.

  1. Justin_Rice

    Justin_Rice Well-Known Member

    Your number is way off.

    I paid about $38,000. I just took a $7,500 refundable tax credit. ... so we're down to $30,500.

    Find me a loaded out V-6 sedan that gets at least 40 miles to the gallon for $20,500 which was being financed for 0 percent back in October, and I'll concede that I started out $10,000 in the hole.
     
  2. Justin_Rice

    Justin_Rice Well-Known Member

    That's fine - it'll still be under warranty.
     
  3. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    And the taxpayers will be soaked once again.
     
  4. If only there was this much concern regarding taxpayers subsidizing the oil industry.
     
  5. Tesla releases logs of Broder's test drive Broder shoud probably have fully charged the car.

    http://www.teslamotors.com/blog/most-peculiar-test-drive
     
  6. Justin_Rice

    Justin_Rice Well-Known Member


    Fired.
     
  7. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Kaboom.
     
  8. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Broder responds:
    http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/02/12/the-charges-are-flying-over-a-test-of-teslas-charging-network/
     
  9. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member



    That's just his response to Musk's tweets the other day.

    Broder has yet to respond to the evidence from the black box data log.
     
  10. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    The longer it takes the Times to respond, the worse it looks.

    As an aside, it is hard to believe a word Elon Musk or his ubiquitous PR agency writes, when they self-servingly misportray the Top Gear incident. Top Gear had already driven the car before the day of the filming, which was how it came up with its mixed "verdict" for the car. They didn't wait for Tesla to show up with a car, let them control a test drive around a track for an hour or two, and then ad lib the episode with the cameras rolling. They had already evaluated the car on their own, and were using the test drive around the track for their made-for-TV filming moments. For Musk to STILL be doing the, "They made up their minds before they 'even received the car.' " is deliberate BS to paint the picture he wants.

    Also, I started reading that, and when he goes on and on about how their biggest markets are Norway and Switzerland, I once again wondered why our Federal government handed a check for $465 million to a foreigner making impractical cars for European playboys, which sell for 2 to 4 times the gasoline versions they are based on.
     
  11. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Whether the read outs are accurate or not they still present a complex process that will turn many potential buyers away for now. If I am spending $60,000 plus on a car I want mindless driving and all features working at all times. I've had too many rounds of golf ruined by electric carts that kick out going up the hill on the 15th hole.
     
  12. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    You should walk the course. Golf is much more enjoyable that way.
     
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