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Chevy Volt a Failure - GM to Layoff 1,300

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Evil Bastard (aka Chris_L), Mar 2, 2012.

  1. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member


    Yes. That's it.

    www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2011/10/28/business/energy-environment/20111029_wind.html
     
  2. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Another boondoggle to give a half a trillion dollars to without collateral. Can we subsidize all purchases, too?

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    It goes from 0 to 60 in a minute and a half, depending on which direction you're facing.
     
  3. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    "Half a trillion?"
     
  4. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    VW was really ahead of it's time with this 84 MPG Bug in 1973.

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  5. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    You need to read more closely:

    "The study is a life cycle analysis of the global warming impact of the production and operation of EVs, driven for 150,000km (93,750 miles), compared with the production and operation of conventional cars. The scientists include so-called "well to wheel" data, taking into account the energy needed to refine and transport oil into petrol or diesel."


    FYI, the Norwegian study cited concluded that the process of producing an electric vehicle produces about twice the environmental impact of producing a conventional vehicle.


    As for solar and wind energy, the studies take into account how power is generated, noting that EV efficiency fluctuates depending on where they are charged and how that power is created. According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration, solar power currently (pun sort of intended) contributes about a tenth of one percent of the electricity generated in the U.S., so its impact is negligible. Wind accounts for less than 3.5 percent.
     
  6. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Exactly - same concept as ethanol when you factor in all the aspects needed to produce.
     
  7. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member


    You mean the Norwegian study funded by the - wait for it - Norwegian oil company Statoil?

    The Norwegian study has been criticised by some, for example, because of links between the university and the oil company Statoil. However, the team behind the research insist that no oil money was used to fund their research. They have also published all their data online for public scrutiny.
     
  8. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Perfectly possible to generate solar/electric power for cars without relying on the grid as it currently exists. Solar carports are workable commercial or private solution for electric cars.

    GE thinks so, anyway.

    www.inovateussolar.com/ge-carports
     
  9. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    Well, their data is posted. Go check it out and let us know if you find any funny business.
     
  10. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    If that's economically and logistically feasible, I say go for it.
     
  11. BenPoquette

    BenPoquette Active Member

    Meanwhile, NASA...one of the biggest "global warming is going to kill us all" groups, admits temps have not risen in 13 years. Yet we keep throwing billions at a problem that doesn't exist.
     
  12. TigerVols

    TigerVols Well-Known Member

    Show me where these studies take into account the trillions in dollars and thousands of lives lost in protecting our Middle East oil supplies? Not to mention all the fossil fuels the military burns in protecting that supply.
     
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