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Chevy Volt a Failure - GM to Layoff 1,300

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Evil Bastard (aka Chris_L), Mar 2, 2012.

  1. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member


    Except it really happened. Which an ad hominem comment about the the Washington Times has to ignore.

    http://usaspending.gov/explore?fiscal_year=all&comingfrom=searchresults&piid=SAU90012M0473&typeofview=complete

    With pending security cuts at U.S. embassies (which may or may not be a good idea), you know that this does not fit into any kind of cohesive fiscal strategy for our government taking a fiduciary responsible to tax us and spend that money with a modicum of sense. But it did put a $108,000 sale into the pocket of someone who bought off some political ally with this agenda of propping up some businesses at the opportunity cost of the added debt or what that money could have done if it was left to actual consumer demand to allocate it.
     
  2. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    The Times story says 'charging station,' singular.

    The work order says 'stations,' plural.

    Depending how many are installed, and where, and how, $108K might be perfectly reasonable for the installation.

    And again, that's $108K spent compared to however much we're currently spending at the Austrian embassy on gasoline. Which I would guess, at over $8 a gallon, is substantial.
     
  3. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Vienna has excellent public transportation.
     
  4. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member


    Then you'd be complaining about how vulnerable our embassy staff is, traveling on unsecured public transit.
     
  5. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    The motor pool at the Austrian embassy can't have more than a couple of vehicles. I don't have the answer to how many. But here is something interesting. The state department purchased a Volt for the Oslo, Norway embassy in March for $47,500.

    http://www.usaspending.gov/explore?fiscal_year=all&comingfrom=searchresults&piid=SNO60012M0221&typeofview=complete

    Why would they pay $47,500 when the MSRP is $39,000? You really think the motivation (or actual effect) for any of this bullshit is cost savings? You really think overpaying for cars and spending $108,000 for a charging station that probably services four or five vehicles (and it isn't like electricity doesn't cost money) is creating a net benefit for U.S. taxpayers?

    Was the party they threw to celebrate "the greening of an embassy" meant to save us money too?

    http://www.leagueofgreenembassies.org/?p=807

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  6. GeorgeFHayek

    GeorgeFHayek Member

    ... and even better schnitzel.
     
  7. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    For all either of us knows, the motor pool at the embassy in Vienna is 40 vehicles. Or 90. or 12. No idea.

    And the Oslo Volt was purchased from the GSA. Maybe the figure includes shipping it to Norway. Or it's been bulletproofed.

    The rest of your post is just ideological piling on - and we already agree that government waste is bad.
     
  8. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Yet, you clipped that "ideological piling on" and partially quoted the post, which was what it was all about. A bunch of state department foofs throwing a party and having a lawn party (it's not like we don't live in a country sitting on $16 trillion worth of debts) to tout their green bona fides. Look through the pictures and check out the corporate logos all around, by the way, including Chevrolet, our new nationalized pet company.

    And, there is no way the motor pool at the American embassy has 90 or 40 vehicles. Chevy hasn't sold enough of the cars for that to be the scale of State Department buying for its embassies. Even if it was, you'd have to question why they need so many cars in a motor pool, anyhow.
     
  9. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Ad hominem.
     
  10. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Cutting the link to the embassy party was just a clipping mistake. No devious intention and no harm meant.

    And I think that yellow car in the first photo is a Tesla.
     
  11. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    What is? I am not attacking any messengers to try to discredit any type of message.

    I am stating right up front that I can't believe this is our government at work -- the same government responsible for $16 trillion in debt and counting. And this is the kind of nonsense we are spending dribs and drabs of that money on. At a time when the IMF is lecturing us because we are on a financial cliff because of our profligate spending, and the debt rating agencies are warning that our credit worthiness has declined (never even a notion in the past that that could ever happen) don't you think it's a fairly reasonable example to look at within the broader picture, which in the context of this thread included a giant transfer of wealth to an auto company that the U.S. government has given preferential treatment to.
     
  12. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    The Washington Times installs chargers? I don't understand comment.
     
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